Dyndns and Email Server?

[dandono]

Hi, I have a mail server running Merak Mail Server 8.2.4 and i have a domain on dyndns.org. I can receive emails but when i send one i get this reply:
The original message was received at Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:39:23 +0100

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <(Receiptiant Email)>

----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mailin-01.mx.aol.com
>>> DATA
<<< 554 5.7.1 (IPT:S1) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/ipt AOL has identified this mail to be unsolicited bulk email.

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I don't know what this means but can some body help?
thanks, dandono

[-TPM-]

Have you tried emailing a non AOL account?

[si_the_geek]

AOL are pretty harsh with their "unsolicited bulk email" policy (they have blocked many notification emails from this site!), so I suspect you are triggering one of their rules.

This sounds bad, but at least the amount of spam their customers receive is lowered dramatically. The trouble is working around it for valid emails.

As TPM suggested, another email provider will probably not have the same issues.

[dandono]

Email to GMail

The original message was received at Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:23:17 +0100

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <[email protected]>

----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com
>>> DATA
<<< 554 5.7.1 (IPT:S1) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/ipt AOL has identified this mail to be unsolicited bulk email.

My ISP is aol and i am using a dynamic IP. would that have anything to do with it?

[thegreatone]

Yeah, i honestly think that AOL has port 25 (SMTP) blocked.
They will not allow any automated email being sent at all, well, not to my knowledge.

[dandono]

i heard that somewhere but i only just remembered when you said about it. what if i changed my smtp server to use a different port?

[thegreatone]

i heard that somewhere but i only just remembered when you said about it. what if i changed my smtp server to use a different port?

In theory it should then work, why don't you try it ?

[deranged]

AOL has been sued many times for not letting it's users get email. It's very bad to have spam blocking at a server level. This should be done at a client level. GMail has it done just right. It will block what it thinks may be spam, but since it's a machine and may mess up or be wrong, it only puts it in a distinguished folder and you can tell GMail if it's not spam.

AOL Got sued by many floridians last year that had subscribed to a hurricane alert thing, and never got their email. I think AOL won because they could've watched the news or read the news paper. But still. No SMTP server should be deciding if something's spam.

[dandono]

I can't get it to send emails outside the network on any port. I dont know what to do about it.

[visualAd]

The reason is, is becuase your mail server is not acting as a server, but it is merely acting as a relay. Hence, somewhere in Merak, you have entered the address of your ISP's (AOL) smtp server, and , AOL is blocking it from there.

If Merak is a true mail server, it should be able to function without the use of your ISP's realy and forward the mail to the appropriate mail box by its self.

[dandono]

How can i set it up as a "True Server" then?

[visualAd]

Don't use your ISP as a relay.

[dandono]

how do i do that?

[k1ll3rdr4g0n]

AOL has been sued many times for not letting it's users get email. It's very bad to have spam blocking at a server level. This should be done at a client level. GMail has it done just right. It will block what it thinks may be spam, but since it's a machine and may mess up or be wrong, it only puts it in a distinguished folder and you can tell GMail if it's not spam.

AOL Got sued by many floridians last year that had subscribed to a hurricane alert thing, and never got their email. I think AOL won because they could've watched the news or read the news paper. But still. No SMTP server should be deciding if something's spam.

I agree. But I tried to email the 'postmaster' and alert him to this problem. Never heard from him back. Oh, and btw, AOL users be warned since if you send an email using a email client (such as thunderbird) your email will go through AOL servers no matter what. Thus, exists the possiblity of AOL trapping your emails and reading them...

I have not been able to firgure out a soulutition to this problem. I've even tried to run a SMTP server on a different port, still AOL is getting them somehow (some but not all AOL headers are still present, for example the from address will always be [email protected]). You can't even connect to a different SMTP server, anytime you connect to a computer on port 25, AOL's smtp server is going to respond.

Something I havn't tried is setting up a SMTP server (on a different port like 26) on a 'non-restricted' ISP such as SBC DSL (don't know about SBC dial-up). And setup your email client to use that server/port, and send. If your email is still intercepted by AOL, I would sue. Because thats invasion of privacy. But, AOL shouldn't because its just data being sent to a computer on a specific port, like viewing a web page.

AOL mail servers just plain suck. Having mail deleted at a server level, isn't that against RFC? I doubt if it is :\. Maybe someone can contact eff and see what they say about this