I agree totally on that one Gtilles, that every programmer should at learst look at it.

I started with basic 1.0 wich predates all DOS programming ( if you partially exclude JAVA for Atari, but not really DoS), then moved onto COBOL and I never looked back
(still got the manuals and reference guides in my library I think...)

Personally, I rekon programmers get too comfortable with all the IDE's, toolkits and other helpful stuff, and this is why I agree with you.

It is because of tall this 'helpfull' stuff that programmers have forgotten the art of classic debugging, and proper design coding which is why all trainees that wwalk throgh my office door, get to use notepad for all design work.

Godd job on the addresss report though, pity about the language throgh!!!

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kai