64 bit processors..

[uniquegodwin]

Are 64 bit processors meant only for using in server machines or also for normal home pc's?


Thanks

[..:RUDI:..]

Can be used anywhere mate

[uniquegodwin]

The windows version for 64 bit is different right?
And can all applications be installed on a 64 bit windows too?

[plenderj]

The AMD Athlon 64 CPUs seem to be more home or workstation orientated, but Intel's offerings such as the Itanium 2 are so prohibitively expensive they're really only for Servers.

Everyone says that all 32bit applications will run under Windows 64, but this is not the case. Macromedia Flash for example won't run under IE64.
Have a look here: http://www.irishdev.com/blogs/plende...06/26/792.aspx

[uniquegodwin]

Wow,that blog was really cool...so,its really very fast i guess...
Im still a fan of intel,i dont trust amd since one of my friends has an amd laptop and it switches off when the processor gets heated and stuff.He isnt even able to use it.Thats the 1st amd laptop ive seen and the worst too.
I just wish intel 64 bit processor also will be suitable for home pc and for office use
I just hope it comes soon.Is ur laptop with 512 mb ram faster than the 3ghz desktop with 1gb ram really?

[..:RUDI:..]

You can still probably fit the Intel 64 proc. into a home desktop, it will just cost you lots

[uniquegodwin]

What would be the approximate price?

[..:RUDI:..]

From what I can see as the cheapest Itanium 2 which is:
Additional 1.0GHz/1.5Mb cache Itanium 2 processor for PowerEdge 3250 (374-10619)

was found at £936.48 exactly from dell

[uniquegodwin]

whoa,pretty expensive

[..:RUDI:..]

Kind-of, I'd go for the AMD, remember that your friend will have probably had a faulty 32-bit proc. These are sophisticated 64-bit procs.

[..:RUDI:..]

Check here

[si_the_geek]

Or here

The computer shutting down is a safety feature - the cooling isn't good enough to keep it at a 'safe' temperature, so the processor shuts the computer down instead of melting itself. (by the way, the shut-down temperature can usually be set in the BIOS, but check at AMD's site for the safe limit of the processor).

[Jacob Roman]

Wow,that blog was really cool...so,its really very fast i guess...
Im still a fan of intel,i dont trust amd since one of my friends has an amd laptop and it switches off when the processor gets heated and stuff.He isnt even able to use it.Thats the 1st amd laptop ive seen and the worst too.
I just wish intel 64 bit processor also will be suitable for home pc and for office use
I just hope it comes soon.Is ur laptop with 512 mb ram faster than the 3ghz desktop with 1gb ram really?

AMD processors compute faster than Pentiums, and doesn't need much GHz to do it, because they process more instructions at a time than the Intels. For example, AMD 3200+ 2.2 GHZ is just as fast as a Pentium 4 3.2 GHz. You see where I'm getting at .

And the new AMD64 FX57 2.8 GHz happens to be as fast as an Pentium 4 5.7 GHz, and those pentium speeds don't even exist yet as far as I know. So the large GHz speeds doesn't matter. It's how many instructions it can compute at a time, which is bases on its cache size.

Back in the late 80's and early 90's when the Amiga 500's were popular, at only 7 MHz, (thats right, 7 MHz) its games had graphics better than the SNES and true stereo sound and music you would here on the Playstation! And this was back when Nintendo was popular. You could even do realtime video editing. The reason it was able to do all of this at only 7 MHz is because the hardware processed its own instructions independently from the CPU using custom chips. Wish the PC's of today did this because the computers would be blazing fast as a result.

[Pc_Madness]

I was under the impression the latest P4's featured 64bit support.

And avoid Windows 64, not enough 64bit drivers to make it worthwhile (hence why Microsoft released it only to OEM's)

And I think the new AMD Sempron's feature 64bit as well... in fact.. so do the CeleronD's? (hence AMD's reason for giving the feature to the sempron )

I would highly recommend an AMD64 (make sure its a 939 pin!)

[uniquegodwin]

I have all only intel processors in my office and i have found very few fail.Havent tried AMD much yet...Will give it a try soon then

[..:RUDI:..]

And I think the new AMD Sempron's feature 64bit as well... in fact.. so do the CeleronD's?

Hmmmm, I have a Celeron D and I'll tell you something that I am not proud of it to be honest!

Anyway, I'll cheack out the Celeron D 64-bit

[Jacob Roman]

I'm getting an AMD 64 3700+ 2.2 GHz myself. On a 939 pin motherboard

Should have it in a week or two.

[uniquegodwin]

What all Applications wont work on a 64bit processor?

[si_the_geek]

It's not the processor that matters most - it's the operating system.

As far as I am aware all consumer 64bit processors are happy to run 32bit applications, however I have heard rumours that the new (64bit) beta version of Windows has issues with a few 32bit programs.

Theoretically the "Windows On Windows" system should make all 32bit programs run as if they are on a 32bit OS; hopefully the issues in the beta will be fixed before it is released.


I have been using a AMD 64bit processor (with Windows XP Pro [32bit]) for a few months with no problems at all, even with 16bit apps.

[uniquegodwin]

That is Great

[Pc_Madness]

I'm getting an AMD 64 3700+ 2.2 GHz myself. On a 939 pin motherboard

Should have it in a week or two.

Why not get a duel core? They'd be about the same price wouldn't they?

Windows on Windows is in Windows XP 64bit (right?)
, which is out of beta, and not all 32bit programs are working, so its probably not worth using it, but Windows XP (32bit) works brillantly on a 64bit processor

[Jacob Roman]

Nope. Just regular Windows XP Home.

[uniquegodwin]

I dont think a normal Windows XP home is 64 bit..Is it?
And i though there was a seperate windows XP home 64 bit

[si_the_geek]

Correct - Windows XP (home or pro') is 32bit.

There is a 64bit version of Pro available, which you can only get by trading-in the 32bit version of XP Pro.

Why not get a duel core? They'd be about the same price wouldn't they?

They're about 3 times the price (for the same speed) where I've looked.

Windows on Windows is in Windows XP 64bit (right?)

Yes, and it is also in earlier versions of Windows in various forms (for 16bit compatablity).