Project Internet Browser - Be Part of a team! LOOK! Codename: Violet

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Hi

I was thinking of starting an internet browser project but would like a few of you guys to help possibly! Now i'm not 100% sure with all of the VB as i'm sure none of you will be, therefore, having a team together who all know little parts of VB would help us to put it all together and make, most probably the best browser yet!

Thinking that we would need:
Security
Speed (Maybe something to do with ports etc.)
Good UI
And Maybe FTP support!

Now this post is probably going to go down and down in the page so less people will read it, but please join the team

[moeur]

Why?

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Well, yes sure there are very good internet browsers around like.......well.......Firefox, any more..............maybe Opera..........anymore..............no!!!

THere are 2-3 good internet browsers around and if we can get a big enough team we could probably make one of the best one's yet! Make it open source, get people to help us who aren't in the team (Everyone's welcome) etc.

Internet Explorer is just another one of M$' muck ups, like VB.NET!

[dglienna]

VB Browsers are too slow. No browser is written in VB.

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Also, only IE has FTP ability!

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VB Browsers are too slow. No browser is written in VB.

Maybe we could make it well..... good

Surely we can have a small project going?
Just for a little open source (I have account on SourceForge), freeware browser for people to use!

It doesn't exactly have to rival big names!

I just thought that it might be nice to get a small team working on one project!

[dee-u]

There are good examples in www.pscode.com already.

[dglienna]

I have FireFTP for Firefox that works well.

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Examples of what already??

I was hoping to get a team together to start from scratch a complete internet browser!

So it looks like nobody wants to help Not even for a little project or something to do!

[dee-u]

Well, I think many here could build a webbrowser from scratch 'alone' and what would we get by trying to build another one?

Examples of what already??

We are talking about webbrowser so I meant webbrowser, did I have to be specific?

[dglienna]

I've posted one from a member here many times. It is fully functional.

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Becuase yes, most people could build a web browser, but not one with many security patches etc.
FTP access and all of that could they?

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I've posted one from a member here many times. It is fully functional.

With all security patches of today?
FTP support etc.????

[rm_03]

I was thinking of starting an internet browser project

Did you also think of the 400 pages standards?
(X/D)HTML, XML, CSS 1/2, ...
For more check out http://www.w3.org
Or what did you want to do?
Use the IE OCX?

And Maybe FTP support!

FTP is the easiest part.

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Did you also think of the 400 pages standards?
(X/D)HTML, XML, CSS 1/2, ...

What exactly do you mean? The types of file it can view?

[rm_03]

I mean the web standards...

Take a look at the FireFox source code.
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.o...source.tar.bz2
And don't be scared of the 32 meg ;-)

Oh, and I just noticed FireFox has FTP support.

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Yes, but not complete FTP support as in, login through form you have to use:

ftp://test:[email protected]

I have seen the source and it's C++!

Also, is there no way to integrate their browser as a component, instead of IE OCX??

[rm_03]

I have seen the source and it's C++!

Users won't care.

but not complete FTP support

Your definition of "complete" FTP support is a log in window?
Mail them, maybe they'll add it.

Also, is there no way to integrate their browser as a component, instead of IE OCX??

Here you go: http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm

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Users won't care.


Your definition of "complete" FTP support is a log in window?
Mail them, maybe they'll add it.


Here you go: http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm

Users wont care = I do, I'm at VB!

"Complete" FTP doesn't just mean that but I find it easier to use! I might just main them

Link: Thanks alot (Rep.)

Although you have confused me,

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Here you go: http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm

In fact, what is this for and how to use??

Would I just add it ass a component using Browse??

It doesn't mention VB anywhere

[rm_03]

It doesn't mention VB anywhere

Probably because VB isn't the only language which supports Active-X.

OCX: http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/control.htm#download
Example: http://pscode.com/vb/scripts/ShowCod...59899&lngWId=1

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I know that, but from what I can gather that was just for the actual browser

[penagate]

Look, I spent/wasted 2 years working on a VB web browser, and that was built on the IE engine. It'll be back in the future, but I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for people to join you on a huge project that you obviously have no or little in-depth knowledge in.

Sorry if I offended you, but that's the way it is.

VB Browsers are too slow. No browser is written in VB.

No major browser is written in VB, that's correct. But there is nothing about VB that says it has to be slow. If you code well, it is as fast as sloppy C++, if you code well, avoid using the runtime functions, and take the trouble to do inline precompiled ASM, then it can be as fast or faster than pure C++. Trouble is, the faster you want it, the effort you need to put in optimisation increases exponentially.

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look everyone, looks like nobody is going to help me then!

Ill try to make it myself and I dont care how long it takes, I have all the time in the world

penagate, thanks but I dont exactly want it to be fast or super good etc. I just wanted to make a little internet browser to use for myself and maybe some other people!

Sorry if I made anyone look at me stupid

[dee-u]

Webbrowser

[penagate]

Rudi, I think I or we may have been a bit harsh on you, and sorry for that. I don't have the time or interest currently to join your project, but maybe, if you want, I can send you the source for one or two early versions of my browser, to get you started? There are lot out there, like the link dee-u posted; hopefully you can use them as examples of UI design etc. I know you want to make your own engine and mine is built on the Trident (IE) engine, so you could use it as example of other techniques like skinning, control positioning, sidebar and toolbar design, etc.

If you want it, PM me with your email address, and I'll email the source to you. I'm not fussed because its an older version, so the same goes for anyone else that wants to see it. I'd post it, but it's too large.

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PMs Penagate