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Jul 22nd, 2005, 07:08 AM
#41
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
I bet Tony Blair was shaking when they arrested this kid..
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 07:10 AM
#42
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
U've also got Glock 18's
http://remtek.com/arms/glock/model/9/18/
And there are many many more.
What I wanted to know is how a random thought it was an automatic. I know my guns, well a little rusty now, and if someone ran past me with that Glock, I wouldn't be able to tell at a glance it was an automatic.
However, some automatics have a box under the barrel, which is a big give away.
Woof
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 07:48 AM
#43
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
I might move to the USA just to have a go on one of those G18c's 
Maybe the eyewitnesses mean semi-auto? I think most people would reCognise a glock even at speed because they are quite distinctive looking anyway. I never even realised you could get full-auto Glocks with the same form-factor as a standard G17.
Our police should definitely get some of those.
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 07:50 AM
#44
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
I thought that's what they used...Glocks, not the fully auto ones anyways.
And ALL pistols with magazines are semi-auto.
Woof
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 07:59 AM
#45
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
I know.
What will happen to the body of the dead guy if he turns out to be one of the bombers? Once the feds have finished with it will it be returned to his family or just disposed of? Discuss
I don't live here any more.
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 08:19 AM
#46
Fanatic Member
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 08:22 AM
#47
Frenzied Member
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
 Originally Posted by wossname
People keep saying "automatic" handgun. I never realised Scotland Yard had started issuing its officers with Tec 9's.
Although that would be sweet.
*holds machine pistol sideways*
"You under arrest beotch, get yo a55 on tha ground!"
"Officers" are not necessarily associated with the police, now, are they?
I am sure the evidence for this incident will be presented shortly.
"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." - Albert Einstein
It's turtles! And it's all the way down
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 08:24 AM
#48
Frenzied Member
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
 Originally Posted by wossname
I know.
What will happen to the body of the dead guy if he turns out to be one of the bombers? Once the feds have finished with it will it be returned to his family or just disposed of? Discuss 
We don't have feds here in the UK.
His clothing will be examined. His stomach will be examined. His skin will be examined.
Pretty obvious stuff, really.
His body will be reconstructed, and then close family will need to identify him either from marks on the body, or from the face (if there's still one left)
"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." - Albert Einstein
It's turtles! And it's all the way down
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 08:57 AM
#49
Fanatic Member
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
What's the temperature in London today?
Here's to us!
Who's like us?
Darned few, and they're all dead!
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 08:57 AM
#50
Frenzied Member
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
 Originally Posted by demotivater
What's the temperature in London today?
Early 20C's ish why?
"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." - Albert Einstein
It's turtles! And it's all the way down
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 09:00 AM
#51
Fanatic Member
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
They said the guy was wearing a heavy, padded coat like you'd wear in winter. Just wondering if it's to warm for that type of coat. I heard on the way to work that he didn't have anything on him after all, not that they could have taken a chance. Still trying to find some info on it though. One story, BBC I think, says he was a "known" suspect, whatever that means.
[edit]I see, he was suspected to be one of the bombers from yesterdays attempts, not a new bomber.[/edit]
Last edited by demotivater; Jul 22nd, 2005 at 09:08 AM.
Here's to us!
Who's like us?
Darned few, and they're all dead!
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 10:54 AM
#52
Frenzied Member
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
 Originally Posted by demotivater
They said the guy was wearing a heavy, padded coat like you'd wear in winter. Just wondering if it's to warm for that type of coat. I heard on the way to work that he didn't have anything on him after all, not that they could have taken a chance. Still trying to find some info on it though. One story, BBC I think, says he was a "known" suspect, whatever that means.
[edit]I see, he was suspected to be one of the bombers from yesterdays attempts, not a new bomber.[/edit]
Certainly not warm enough to be wearing a coat. Humdity is fairly high, too.
"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." - Albert Einstein
It's turtles! And it's all the way down
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 12:28 PM
#53
Addicted Member
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
 Originally Posted by wossname
People keep saying "automatic" handgun. I never realised Scotland Yard had started issuing its officers with Tec 9's.
Although that would be sweet.
*holds machine pistol sideways*
"You under arrest beotch, get yo a55 on tha ground!"
An automatic handgun is not a fully automatic weapon. Glocks are automatics because the automatically reload after every pull of the trigger. A tec 9 is a fully automatic handgun. A AR-15 is the automatic version of the fully automatic m-16. Semi automatic comes from the labeling of selector switches on fully automatic weapons.
"And most of the evils of society can, in fact, be cured through information. We have a society that has been disinformed and based on the disinformation has made irrational choices. And that's what I mean by 'ignorance.' People, who ordinarily might be smart, are deprived of the data by which to make a rational decision, don't have the data to do it."
Frank Zappa
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Jul 22nd, 2005, 02:10 PM
#54
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
One....no...two persons is now arested..
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Jul 25th, 2005, 02:42 AM
#55
Frenzied Member
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
They shot the wrong guy
"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." - Albert Einstein
It's turtles! And it's all the way down
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Jul 25th, 2005, 03:12 AM
#56
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
Was he carrying a table leg?
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Jul 25th, 2005, 03:22 AM
#57
Frenzied Member
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
Yeah it's not the first time. Imagine if we issued guns to all the police. I wonder how often this happens in places where all the police force carry guns.
Still, he was reported to have been asked to stop, and he ran instead. Perhaps enough for suspicion?
"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." - Albert Einstein
It's turtles! And it's all the way down
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Jul 25th, 2005, 04:08 AM
#58
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
I feel for this guys family.
But, IF the reports are correct, and he legged it, jumping barriers and stuff, and then boared a train after being repeatedly told to stop due to armed police then in the current climate then I have to back the polices actions and the use of lethal force I am afraid.
yea, it appears he was an innocent...but surely no-one is THAT stupid to run onto a train giving the impression it's a good possibility that he's a bomber.
If I was in his situation I would be rooted to the sport bricking myself that if I sneeze I'll get shot...I would not turn and leg it.
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Jul 25th, 2005, 04:29 AM
#59
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
There are a lot of questions that the investigation will have to answer.
Was he challenged by the police? I was under the impression that because they thought he was a bomber they gave no warnings, to prevent him triggering any bombs.
They saw him leave the house so how come he got as far as entering a train if they thought he was a bomber?
One lesson for commuters, if your late for your train don't run to try and catch it you might get shot.
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Jul 29th, 2005, 07:15 AM
#60
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
WOw...the police is really making an effort here now...Notting Hill in Vest-London. Explosions heard...Police has entered a building, and is taking people out of there as we speak..
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Jul 29th, 2005, 09:18 AM
#61
Fanatic Member
Re: 3 London Subway Stations Evacuated
 Originally Posted by yrwyddfa
Yeah it's not the first time. Imagine if we issued guns to all the police. I wonder how often this happens in places where all the police force carry guns.
Not often at all.
Mohammed B. who shot and mamed Theo van Gogh (filmmaker) was chased by regular police from the neighbourhood, if they didn't have guns they might not of caught him because he was aiming to kill (he admitted in court).
Many policemen take pride in the fact that they've never had to use their gun.
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