IE 7 this summer

[mendhak]

http://www.toptechnews.com/story.xht...d=02300000IBIE

[Pc_Madness]

What did they rename TCPA/Palladium to?

[Wally Pipp]

Crappola deluxe

[mendhak]

What did they rename TCPA/Palladium to?

Wnidows XP!!! Mwahahaha!!!

[NoteMe]

http://www.toptechnews.com/story.xht...d=02300000IBIE

Who cares....

[mendhak]

Fx fans

[Cander]

Big whoopty doo.... They still aren't fixing IE's shortcomings, just throwing in a few new features.

[NoteMe]

And they are not throwing in Canders extension...

[Valleysboy1978]

I somehow doubt they could rebuild IE in a few months. They are just changing the look of it

[wossname]

Big whoopty doo.... They still aren't fixing IE's shortcomings, just throwing in a few new features.

How rude.

[Merri]

Humm, I read over a month ago or so about it... they've apparently fixed some CSS issues. So it isn't only improved security build as most people have feared. Also PNG support have finally been fixed.

Some information:
http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archi...e_welcome.html
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/03/09/391362.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/04/22/410963.aspx

[Valleysboy1978]

But they haven't IMPROVED anything. They are only responding to the threat of FireFox and finally fixinf problems with IE that should never have been there in the first place

[Pc_Madness]

I pray to god they change their mind and release IE7 to everyone, I can't be bothered having to seperate IE 6 and IE7/FireFox for Javascript/CSS. Such a pain in the arse.

[Merri]

One way to think about it: Microsoft is killing their support to older Windowses, which means that if you use an older OS, you switch to another browser (likely Firefox or Opera). Microsoft is just broadening the market for other browsers (even though they're not meaning to). Atleast I bet that people just change their browser rather than buy a new computer with a new shiny Windows.

Of course there are people who don't do that, but the more time passes, the more people get to know about the new situatation.

[dglienna]

They want to keep one step ahead of the Joneses. They won't release anything that won't run under XP. If they made it 64 bit, then I'd tend to agree with you.
It's direct competition with the other browsers.

[Pc_Madness]

One way to think about it: Microsoft is killing their support to older Windowses, which means that if you use an older OS, you switch to another browser (likely Firefox or Opera). Microsoft is just broadening the market for other browsers (even though they're not meaning to). Atleast I bet that people just change their browser rather than buy a new computer with a new shiny Windows.

Of course there are people who don't do that, but the more time passes, the more people get to know about the new situatation.

Yeah but most people are happy with IE 6 and don't realise how much of a pain it is for developers, or that there are even alternatives...

[Madboy]

And will the security floor issues be fixed, i doubt. They think by adding Tabbed Browsing people will leave Opera, Fire Fox etc and go back to IE.


.....yeah right

[Merri]

Yeah but most people are happy with IE 6 and don't realise how much of a pain it is for developers, or that there are even alternatives...

Atleast here people are pretty good in switching browsers... Firefox's popularity peak place in the world is in Finland. The most likely place to find Firefox installed on a randomly picked computer is here

[nemaroller]

I've been making web applications for a while now... and really the few important things they need to be sure off is:
1) Their strict mode is compatible to the standards as possible (at least better than Mozilla)

2) Their bubble-up event model is either replaced but at least complemented by the W3C recommended model.

3) Better garbage collection between page loads.

[Dave Sell]

Despite earlier plans not to do a browser update until Longhorn's release in 2006, Microsoft chairman Bill Gates confirmed that code for IE 7 will be available this summer in beta and in full by Christmas.

OK, it's Christmas (almost). Is IE7 here? There is a new package under my tree. Could that be it?

[mendhak]

Maybe he's going to postpone Christmas.

[thegreatone]

Maybe he's going to postpone Christmas.

[Kasracer]

It's nice they're fixing the XHTML header issue. Too bad it's a work around and IE 7 still won't render XHTML correctly.

http://binaryidiot.com/index.php?area=news&id=22

[I_Love_My_Vans]

I have watched videos on Vista and IE7 security, and looks like a pile of w@nk.

I like opera right now, looks good.

[tr333]

I've been making web applications for a while now... and really the few important things they need to be sure off is:
1) Their strict mode is compatible to the standards as possible (at least better than Mozilla)

M$ have publicly stated that they won't be supporting the CSS2 specification, since they believe it is flawed. They will instead wait for CSS3.

[tr333]

Who cares....

Camino pwnz all browsers...
(except for lynx/links).

[Kasracer]

M$ have publicly stated that they won't be supporting the CSS2 specification, since they believe it is flawed. They will instead wait for CSS3.

On the developer's blog, they stated they will be supporting more of the CSS2 spec....

[tr333]

On the developer's blog, they stated they will be supporting more of the CSS2 spec....

that doesn't mean they will be supporting the FULL specification...

[Kasracer]

that doesn't mean they will be supporting the FULL specification...

Naturally. It's Microsoft. I wish they'd give up and just ship Opera or Firefox with Windows.

[tr333]

Naturally. It's Microsoft. I wish they'd give up and just ship Opera or Firefox with Windows.

so do most people (including me...), but they don't want to lose their control over the internet and HTML/CSS. when you have over 80% of the browser market, you effectively control what people see.

[tux_newbie]

all bull ****! they are now loadin it with an anti virus ,then a firewall ,one day it will have an inbuilt os!.Bill G has gone mad!!
live long firefox!!

[Valleysboy1978]

Why they cannot just accept that people want a browser. That's all! Sure more functionality in the browser is always good but M$ always take it to extremes and either make it far too complicated for the average user or open more holes by accident

[tr333]

Why they cannot just accept that people want a browser. That's all! Sure more functionality in the browser is always good but M$ always take it to extremes and either make it far too complicated for the average user or open more holes by accident

it seems more likely that they do both...

[Jacob Roman]

And we are suppose to care that IE 7 is even coming out? I'd replace that POS with Firefox anyday.

[dglienna]

Unless you don't have Automatic Updates, or need something that you actually have to choose for yourself!

[jo0ls]

public beta, 'tis most lovely...

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...aredirect.mspx

[abhijit]

IS this the one which has got tab based browsing in it?

[thegreatone]

Yes, but personally it looks like a rip off to just about every firefoix based product out there.

[abhijit]

I think that this might be a hit product and attempt to convert the firefox user base is what M$ has in mind.