JSF and Struts

[nebulom]

What should I learn first? Advice from someone who has best knowledge of this one? I know I should learn both, but I would like to ask some help pointing out which first to be studied.

Also, any links for some tutorials about this stuffs? Thanks in advance.

[Dillinger4]

Just forund this http://www.jsftutorials.net/ off google. Don't know if they have anything that's good.

nebulom may i ask what Struts are? I started doing some JSP programming a little while ago and i would here JSF and Struts mentioned often. As far as i remember JSF were a way to pretty much use Swing components. Don't know if my memory serves me correctly though.

[nebulom]

The two are just frameworks for good Web UI controls. Though mentioned, JSF is not bound to HTML and HTTP alone. I don't know a lot, I'm just starting. Anyway, you can go to http://struts.apache.org/ for Struts and I've got something I found from coreservlets. Wait...

Ehem. Here http://www.coreservlets.com/Apache-Struts-Tutorial/. There's a pdf format for us to download.

Btw, thanks for the link, bookmarked it.

Edit: Correct me if I'm wrong but the two frameworks mentioned (I guess), are just implementations of the MVC architecture. So (I guess again) it's a simpler way doing MVC with this frameworks.

[Dillinger4]

Yeah i read Core Servlets and Java Server Pages a while back off that site http://pdf.coreservlets.com/ Wasent a bad read.

I guess both might be implementations of the MVC since it clearly has it's advantages. Sun's calls it's version of MVC Separable Model Architecture which is a slightly different version of true MVC. Far as i remember JSF was a community effort so it's a good chance that it uses MVC. Struts i think are Jakarta but they probably use MVC also. It would make sense for them to use MVC for various reasons like having a single api that is capable of supporting multiple look and feels and allowing event driven programming without requiring it in the upper most api level.