MS Visual Studio 2005?How about that??

[Apek]

Hi guys..have you heard about MS Visual Studio 2005?
This time Microsoft produce visual studio package with Express edition..
even Visual Basic Express Edition...
Here are the Top 14 cool things about Visual Basic 2005 Express Edition.

1. Built-in Movie Collection Starter Kit is a fully functional out of the box and provides a well-documented and easy-to-follow example of using Visual Basic 2005.
2. New language features like My provide simple access to the .NET Framework and help you easily write powerful code
3. Documentation and language tutorials targeted at new programmers help developers get going quickly and easily.
4. IntelliSense Code Snippets provide code for almost 200 common programming tasks integrated into the IDE.
5. Edit and Continue creates a natural coding experience by allowing you to add functionality or fix bugs in running code.
6. Build data-enabled applications that connect to SQL Server 2005 Express Edition. Automatically generate databound UI.
7. Windows Forms Designer enables easy authoring of rich, interactive applications using drag and drop. New snaplines and in-place property editing enhance the intuitive design experience.
8. New Windows Forms Controls such as GridView, ToolStrip, and WebBrowser make it fun and easy to create killer UI.
9. Background compilation and AutoCorrect help to detect mistakes in code and suggest changes. Write correct code the first time!
10. Simplified IDE experience makes it easy to find key functionality.
11. Easily connect and retrieve data from XML Web services.
12. New Smart Tags provide easy access to common control features.
13. Small download makes it easy to get started.
14. Debugger Datatips and Visualizers help clarify complex data structures like a DataSet

it even can make your VB application goes online...thats what i like the most..online application from MS is now become more easier..sounds cool huh??i think i really like this thing...target users for those at the hobbyist, novice, and student developers who want to build dynamic Windows applications and Web sites..but the drawbacks is maybe more users will not interested to learn hard coding work when everthing has been eased and visualised by MS...what do you guys think??give your rate...

Check it out HERE

[techgnome]

My thoughts based on this:

1. Built-in Movie Collection Starter Kit is a fully functional out of the box and provides a well-documented and easy-to-follow example of using Visual Basic 2005.
   And yet some how I'll find it totaly useless for me (but that's just me)
   
2. New language features like My provide simple access to the .NET Framework and help you easily write powerful code
   So far this is the coolest thing I've heard yet... however, it's not a VS2k5 thing, but rather part of .NET 2
   
3. Documentation and language tutorials targeted at new programmers help developers get going quickly and easily.
   I've still yet to see decent documentation come from MS, but it is getting better, here's hoping.
   
4. IntelliSense Code Snippets provide code for almost 200 common programming tasks integrated into the IDE.
   Cool item #2 - can't wait to see how badly I can screw this up
   
5. Edit and Continue creates a natural coding experience by allowing you to add functionality or fix bugs in running code.
   It's only natural because it's what we've gotten used to from prior VB versions. At this point, I've been working with VS.NET long enough that I've gotten used to not having it and only view it's absence as a minor irritation.
   
6. Build data-enabled applications that connect to SQL Server 2005 Express Edition. Automatically generate databound UI.
   [COLOR=DarkRed][B]Beware... I've never trusted anything that handles the databinding for me. It's too black box-ish for me. I'd rather have control over it myself.
   
7. Windows Forms Designer enables easy authoring of rich, interactive applications using drag and drop. New snaplines and in-place property editing enhance the intuitive design experience.
   Snap lines - cool item #3... in-place property editing? Not sure what that's all about.
   
8. New Windows Forms Controls such as GridView, ToolStrip, and WebBrowser make it fun and easy to create killer UI.
   And yet I don't create killer apps (again, it's me, others will feel differently) and the ones I do create, while a good user experience is a priority, they are utilitarian in nature.
   
9. Background compilation and AutoCorrect help to detect mistakes in code and suggest changes. Write correct code the first time!
   What? MORE blue & red squiggly lines? And now it's going to suggest changes to my code? Hope there's a way to turn that off.
   
10. Simplified IDE experience makes it easy to find key functionality.
    As long as there is a "complicated mode"
    
11. Easily connect and retrieve data from XML Web services.
    And some day you will be able to easily connect and retrieve data from a database, a text file, Excel, Access and your favorite porn site.
    
12. New Smart Tags provide easy access to common control features.
    Great... Smart Tags.... again.... won't that just die?
    
13. Small download makes it easy to get started.
    For the Express, yes. But for those running higher end apps, it's going to be a much larger d/l.
    
14. Debugger Datatips and Visualizers help clarify complex data structures like a DataSet
    Huh? What does that mean?

it even can make your VB application goes online...thats what i like the most..online application from MS is now become more easier..sounds cool huh??i think i really like this thing...target users for those at the hobbyist, novice, and student developers who want to build dynamic Windows applications and Web sites..but the drawbacks is maybe more users will not interested to learn hard coding work when everthing has been eased and visualised by MS...what do you guys think??give your rate...

Check it out HERE

It sounds like you are exactly the target audience MS had in mind in creating the Express version. For the hobbyist, yeah the visualization of putting the pieces together is ideal. As for those who will want to it the hard way, odds are they aren't the hobbyist and have access to the other versions of VS.NET and won't have need of the visual/drag-n-drop components.

Tg

[Apek]

sorry techgnome..i am not the target audience...i also like the hardcoding works..and i like to control the code myself...at the same time,i'm just someone who really get excited of any new tenchnologies..but at all time, i still prefer the hard coding way because the satisfaction doing it that way is priceless...you cannot enjoy programming when everything has been eased by drag and down,binding or whatever...

[alkatran]

sorry techgnome..i am not the target audience...i also like the hardcoding works..and i like to control the code myself...at the same time,i'm just someone who really get excited of any new tenchnologies..but at all time, i still prefer the hard coding way because the satisfaction doing it that way is priceless...you cannot enjoy programming when everything has been eased by drag and down,binding or whatever...

There's satisfaction in writing libraries of code, but you know where the REAL satisfaction is?

When someone asks you to do something slightly complicated (obviously nothing very big), you open up VB (or whatever you may have), reference a few DLLs, and have the job done in under 5 minutes using your own code base.

[Apek]

wow.......i wish i can achieve to that level.........

[alkatran]

wow.......i wish i can achieve to that level.........

For me it was just a 'function grapher' that used directx. You modified the source for the function and it would vary with time (there were two inputs, X and T).

It looked incredibly cool. Me and my friend had to use it to solve a physics problem involving waves..

[Apek]

alkatran..what are you talking about?VB?