View Poll Results: Do you use MZ Tools in your IDE ?
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May 10th, 2005, 04:39 PM
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I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
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May 10th, 2005, 04:43 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
I've used it since discovering it about 6 months ago. It has almost every feature that I looked for. I wanted a cross-reference, but realize that it would require line numbers, so I guess I don't need it as much.
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May 11th, 2005, 05:23 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
 Originally Posted by dglienna
I've used it since discovering it about 6 months ago. It has almost every feature that I looked for. I wanted a cross-reference, but realize that it would require line numbers, so I guess I don't need it as much. 
I know it is late to post back to this - sorry, re-reading it just struck a chord. What I do to cross reference in code is create a numbered code link like
VB Code:
Results.GetLatestResults a1, s1, SQL_Glist
' NOTE - the order of the returned data is as per the order of the SQL_Glist (CL045)
I then do a Control H on the CL045 number and it takes me to the proof of the 'CL' origin statement.
VB Code:
s1 = RS!Glist.Value ' [CL045] CN086
The CL is in [] brackets at the proof point as it is the end of a the link.
Sometimes I also have a CN number which is a stand alone 'Code Note' reference which ties in any written memory joggers that my tired old brain needs to refer back to every now and again. 
Does anyone out there have any code tips that they use that may be shared ?
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May 10th, 2005, 04:47 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
I've used it for some time now (can't really remember how long but it's a few years anyway). On another note... Shouldn't things like this be posted in the chit-chat forum?
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May 10th, 2005, 04:50 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
Not sure. I posted in the hope that newbies - and there seem to be a lot at the moment, read it and wonder what MZ is all about. So it's informative and light hearted at the same time.
The link to MZTools is in my signature by the way.
Anyway, I never use the chit chat forum - so I wouldn't know if it's applicable or not. I am sure Martin will take a view.
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May 10th, 2005, 04:51 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
i use it, but i haate how it names my controls
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May 10th, 2005, 04:53 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
I use it and its great, very useful and I got the link from your signature David.Poundall so thanks 
Cheers,
RyanJ
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May 10th, 2005, 11:09 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
 Originally Posted by |2eM!x
i use it, but i haate how it names my controls
It didn't do anything at all for me by default, but you can change that in the Options box. You can set the rules for naming, default properties, etc.
I use it mainly for the module headers and the code analyser. It's particularly useful for finding redundant variables and declarations, etc.
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May 10th, 2005, 04:53 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
Can't you change it ??? I thought it was infinitely configurable ?
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May 10th, 2005, 04:56 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
I use it and love it, although I'm sure I have only scratched the surface of its usefulness. The big thing for me is the function that automatically sets the TabIndexes. Also, I like the way you can insert an error-handler (and customize it).
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May 10th, 2005, 05:00 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
 Originally Posted by BruceG
I use it and love it, although I'm sure I have only scratched the surface of its usefulness. The big thing for me is the function that automatically sets the TabIndexes. Also, I like the way you can insert an error-handler (and customize it).
Don't forget the code template feature. It takes me just three key combinations to update old code to add debug and error handlers the way I like them, and one button combination to initialise all of the fiddly bit's I like on a new form. Very handy
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May 10th, 2005, 04:53 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
I use it and its great, very useful and I got the link from your signature David.Poundall so thanks
That's worth more than a rating in my book - way to go.
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May 10th, 2005, 04:57 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
The feature I use most of all - every session in fact, is the one where the MZ can identify every calling statement for my sub's and functions. I struggled for two years without that functionality. I dread to think of how many hours I lost in that time.
Last edited by David.Poundall; May 10th, 2005 at 05:52 PM.
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May 10th, 2005, 05:04 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
For those of you who are wondering what MZ Tools is - click on my signature to be taken to the free download page of the most usefull OCX you will ever install on your PC to help you with your day to day programming for VB6.
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May 10th, 2005, 07:33 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
Great tool, I highly recommend it!!
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May 11th, 2005, 02:12 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
So out of all of you guys that havn't used MZtools before. How many of you are going to give it a try - and why haven't you done it yet?
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May 11th, 2005, 03:17 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
I have tried it few times with hopes to use it but every time I ended up saying the same thing - "I don't need it".
But it's a nice set of tools - if you have use for it, though.
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May 11th, 2005, 03:53 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
I use it for like year now (I think).
I mostly use the line numbers, error handler, and statistics (that's for showing off how much I do )
The other features I don't really need...
[edit]I just remembered, I also use "Review source code", helps me find unused variables, and clean up the code... pretty nice feature...
Last edited by CVMichael; May 11th, 2005 at 04:36 PM.
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May 11th, 2005, 04:20 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
I have tried it few times with hopes to use it but every time I ended up saying the same thing - "I don't need it".
But it's a nice set of tools - if you have use for it, though.
I am amazed Rhino, don't you ever have the need to backtrack to find all instances of where a function is called from, without the nause of having to use Control H and Find Next ? Or do you use a corporate tool?
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May 11th, 2005, 04:44 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
You shouldn't be amazed - people have their habits developed over years, don't you think.
Also, personally I don't trust much third party's add-ins - I have my own methodology which never let me down (not yet at least).
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May 11th, 2005, 04:55 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
sounds like something i might have to take a look at!
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May 11th, 2005, 04:57 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
Hmmmm, I see where you are coming from.
For my part I had been looking to find something that would help me to navigate large projects easier for 12 months before I found MZ. In truth my acute need was probably due to my early inefficient coding practices. That coupled with my lack of knowledge of Shift F2 and Control Shift F2 (we were all noobs once - some more than others)
Happily I feel more comfortable in my coding and so perhaps I may not need to rely on MZ as much as I used to in this area. Even so I couldn't be without the code template feature. That would be asking just toooooo much.
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May 11th, 2005, 04:57 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
sounds like something i might have to take a look at!
Good to hear.
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May 11th, 2005, 04:58 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
[edit]I just remembered, I also use "Review source code", helps me find unused variables, and clean up the code... pretty nice feature...
how do i acess this feature?!?
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May 11th, 2005, 05:00 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
wow found that feature..all i can say is awesome.!
edit**
while we are talking about this..how do i turn vbs error handling in ide off ( i want it on when i click play duh ) its because, sometimes i need to paste alot of stuff, and it gives me stupid msgboxs about errors...
thanks alot
Last edited by |2eM!x; May 11th, 2005 at 05:03 PM.
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May 11th, 2005, 05:12 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
wow found that feature..all i can say is awesome.!
Which One ?
while we are talking about this..how do i turn vbs error handling in ide off ( i want it on when i click play duh ) its because, sometimes i need to paste alot of stuff, and it gives me stupid msgboxs about errors...
Tools-Options and deselect Auto syntax check
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May 11th, 2005, 05:13 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
this one:
[edit]I just remembered, I also use "Review source code", helps me find unused variables, and clean up the code... pretty nice feature...
and thanks btw : D
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May 11th, 2005, 05:21 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
I am definately a VB newbie. I've only been exposed for it for maybe a month or two. I'm sorta getting the hang of things. What exactly are the MZ tools...
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May 11th, 2005, 05:25 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
I am definately a VB newbie. I've only been exposed for it for maybe a month or two. I'm sorta getting the hang of things. What exactly are the MZ tools...
Its a free OCX that you can download and register on your system that adds several features that you may find usefull in your day to day coding. things like..
1. Code templates. How many times do you want to type
VB Code:
For n = 1 to Ubound(a1)
Next n
For example
Or if you do a lot of recordset work how about having a macro that types this for you on a two button click
VB Code:
Dim RS As Recordset: Dim rstSQL As String
rstSQL = "SELECT * FROM cc_groups " & _
" WHERE URID = '" & URID & "' " & _
" AND Deleted = False "
Set RS = SQLtoRS(rstSQL)
With RS
If .RecordCount <= 0 Then
For n = 0 To .RecordCount - 1
If n = 0 Then .MoveFirst Else .MoveNext
Next n
Else
For n = 0 To .RecordCount - 1
If n = 0 Then .MoveFirst Else .MoveNext
Next n
End If
CObj RS
Set RS = Nothing
End With
2. If you want to know how many times a function is called in your code. Navigate to the function and from anywhere within it select 'Procedure Callers' for a list of calling lines. Click on each line in th elist to be instantly taken there.
Last edited by David.Poundall; May 11th, 2005 at 05:30 PM.
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May 11th, 2005, 05:42 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
 Originally Posted by David.Poundall
1. Code templates. How many times do you want to type
VB Code:
For n = 1 to Ubound(a1)
Next n
For example
hahaha. Sorry Can't say that I have alot of times when I want to type that. Still just a beginner. But I like this so I'm going to keep at it
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May 11th, 2005, 05:55 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
I think I missed something there. I'd like a list of all variables, and where they're sed in the code. I guess it's not as useful without the line numbers, plus that fact that option explicit eliminates most errors, but, I'd like to see which modules have the same variable names, and which ones can be combined.
I used to use XREF for QB. I'll see if I can find any of the .LST files that it produced. My code didn't have line numbers, but XREF added them, and formatted the output nicely.
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May 11th, 2005, 06:08 PM
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Re: I was wondering how many people use MZ tools
I think I missed something there.
I think it was me that missed it.
I see where you are coming from now. That's an old compiler output you are talking about there. Don't you think that Control H does away with the need for that ?
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