School Shotings and Weapons Ban

[davebat]

if you search for "Jeff Weise" on google (the killer) you'll see he posted on nazi forums.

[nemaroller]

School shootings happen everywhere, and it has no correlation with how strict gun laws are -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1953425.stm

[BodwadUK]

Umm there are probably loads of people by the same name

[Valleysboy1978]

Of course it correlates to how strict gun laws are. The more lax, the easier it is to get a gun!?!

Bod I definitely agree that if a kid is nuts he will harm people, but you have to admit there's a difference between some kid brandishing a knife and an AK-47

[BodwadUK]

I am not saying guns should be legal but spotting potential child psychos is more important than trying to ban what is probably millions of guns. Its all about practicallity

[honeybee]

School shootings happen everywhere, and it has no correlation with how strict gun laws are -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1953425.stm

Haven't heard of any school shootings (specially by students) in our country. And here we have two separate categories even in the police department: armed and unarmed.

Just to clear up any confusion:

In all the four incidents from the USA, mentioned in that reoprt, it's the students who have killed others. A parellel can only be found in the incidents reported from Germany, where again I guess half the shooters are "former" pupils.

School shootings happen "everywhere"? I guess the world is much much bigger than Scotland, Yemen, USA and Germany put together

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[nemaroller]

Haven't heard of any school shootings (specially by students) in our country. And here we have two separate categories even in the police department: armed and unarmed.

Just to clear up any confusion:

In all the four incidents from the USA, mentioned in that reoprt, it's the students who have killed others. A parellel can only be found in the incidents reported from Germany, where again I guess half the shooters are "former" pupils.

School shootings happen "everywhere"? I guess the world is much much bigger than Scotland, Yemen, USA and Germany put together

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Point to note - someone mentioned they happen only in the US. Perhaps you'd be more satisfied with 'school shootings CAN happen anywhere'. How about kniving rampages?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/1376982.stm

[yrwyddfa]

I suggest you stop arming bears

[demotivater]

I'm sure the schools in India are perfectly safe, well, unless it's a Christian school eh, honeybee?

[yrwyddfa]

Imagine if you armed 'Bees ?

[Shaggy Hiker]

Bees are already armed well enough for my comfort.

[demotivater]

I'm sure the schools in India are perfectly safe, well, unless it's a Christian school eh, honeybee?

Conveniently ignoring this one hb?

[honeybee]

Point to note - someone mentioned they happen only in the US. Perhaps you'd be more satisfied with 'school shootings CAN happen anywhere'. How about kniving rampages?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/1376982.stm

To counter such stupid arguments, I can only say that school shootings don't seem to happen in countless other countries where carrying a gun is ordinarily not allowed.

So now you want to equate knives with guns? Nice try. I shall wait till you get to the level of equating guns with a fistfight before I can even think of responding to that argument.

Jeez, it sure looks as if individual opinion counts more than the general welfare....

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[Maven]

Our gun laws are not what created this problem. People have had the right to carry arms since the beginning of our country. It's what makes america one of the hardest countires to invade on earth, because the civilians are armed better then some armys out there in the world.

Instead I blame this on 2 different factors. 1. The media in our country has changed a lot in a bad way. A lot of music out there tries to make ganster life look great. 2. There is a ****load of single parents out there trying to raise kids by themselves.

[davebat]

It's what makes america one of the hardest countires to invade on earth, because the civilians are armed better then some armys out there in the world.

Lol, dont forgot that your all so fat our tanks would have trouble running you over.

I think tradgedys like this happen because some people like hurting others. People are the most vicious animals on the face of the earth, get over it.

[Valleysboy1978]

Our gun laws are not what created this problem. People have had the right to carry arms since the beginning of our country. It's what makes america one of the hardest countires to invade on earth, because the civilians are armed better then some armys out there in the world.

Baaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaa

Oh, sorry, you were being serious.

2. There is a ****load of single parents out there trying to raise kids by themselves.

Yeah well, if they go at it like a pair of rabbits they have to pay the price won't they!

[Xanith]

To counter such stupid arguments, I can only say that school shootings don't seem to happen in countless other countries where carrying a gun is ordinarily not allowed.

So now you want to equate knives with guns? Nice try. I shall wait till you get to the level of equating guns with a fistfight before I can even think of responding to that argument.

Jeez, it sure looks as if individual opinion counts more than the general welfare....

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As I stated before violent crime is on the rise in the UK while it has been steadily declining in the US since the 1980’s. While guns are outlawed in the UK the average US citizen has no trouble obtaining one. Therefore the argument put forth that guns are the sole cause of violent crime (murder, rape, armed robbery) collapses under its own weight.

To be honest someone who writes something like “I can only say that school shootings don't seem to happen in countless other countries where carrying a gun is ordinarily not allowed.” Is akin to saying well cars that don’t have an engine are not likely to go anywhere, Duh. And you called him stupid.

His argument that violence in schools is not the sole proprietorship of the US is absolutely correct. He actually presented evidence to his argument, now I know how facts and figures seem to bother you HB and you have a hard time looking outside your little I hate Bush and the US little world but guess what? You are wrong, again. No surprise there.

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[davebat]

just out of interest was there a reason the constitution originally was all for people bearing arms? We never learnt american history in school.

[MasterBlaster]

As I stated before violent crime is on the rise in the UK while it has been steadily declining in the US since the 1980’s. While guns are outlawed in the UK the average US citizen has no trouble obtaining one. Therefore the argument put forth that guns are the sole cause of violent crime (murder, rape, armed robbery) collapses under its own weight.

Of course it's on the decline in the US. Everyone here is to Lazy to Rob or murder anyone and we're so fat and smelly no one want's to rape us.