Quote Originally Posted by szlamany
Noteme - I certainly don't want to give you a big head...

...it looks like you have been banging it for eternity

You apparently appreciate the inner workings of the computer - how you arrived there - through C, Games, ASM - whatever - you appear to be there.

I have no idea what you are talking about, when you talk in codes like that. Speak up, don't use metaphors....it will only make you lose your point when discussing with a foreigner. Because if you just had a point. It was never transmitted through the right channel.

Well enough about teaching away communication skills.



Quote Originally Posted by szlamany
But the original post was:

Yes it was, I just commented on your and Mavens comparing of VB and C++. And that was a lousy comparison.


Quote Originally Posted by szlamany
And I still maintain that if you are a novice, you will benefit from learning ASM - and removing the magic of what goes on inside.


We happen to have arrived at the "it's not magic" through 2 decades of assembler and reviewing how code compiled from BASIC into machine code (along with other things as well).

I still can't see the big point in teaching ASM for this. You will reveal more then enough of that magic by just using an other language that is not a RAD language, like C++. Then you will deal with stacks, and you can look at cach misses, DMA crash and so on and so on. And I can't see one reason why I would need ASM to understand anything of this. I thought it my self much better by teaching about how a computer is buildt up and then use C++ to deal with it as best as I could. And the ASM course didn't bring anything new too it, nor did it teach me more then 10% then what C++ have thought me. But hell yeah, C++ have thought me a lot about structure, maintenance, coding paterns, and pros and cons about how to lay out your code, that VB never thought me.


Quote Originally Posted by szlamany
I said that calling a SUB/FUNC to do it would be a bottleneck.
And twanvl said that a half decent compiler will inline it for you. And I agree. And he also stated that you would see it on a profiler that it should have been inlined, or done in an other way, and I agree.