Member Registration sheme ?

[TacTiXs]

Hi all and sorry to moderators if u find this thread redundant or misplaced, but i'm not quiete sure where to post it.

Hi everyone, this is my first post here and am nowhere when it comes to vb coding, therefor i need some help from experimented persons like u guys are.

I am interested in this program described at http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...6&page=1&pp=40 to use for an online gaming league to keep banned users away that uses cheat or misbehave themself and this way creating a stress atmosphere within the community.
I was thinking that instead of this application being used for enabling a software to run, it could simply be used as a registration form to a website.

I'm not qualified neither have the the vb program to built a working exe. Would someone pls consider building this application to a finished working program with small customisation? I would be tremendously gratefull and would credit u on my community website.

The customisation would include additional hardware id retrieval or other reliable details and maybe synchronised with a website database. Unless that would be to difficult, i could then have the users sign up, using the "register" input. It would send me their hd id, name and password, which would be added in a user database.
anytime a user logs on, a script on my website would check it's name and according hd id or generated key. If the HD id or key is found to be locked then the users wont be granted acces.
I would then have to manually create users account before sending them the validation code to activate their account.
It would be very nice ofcourse if this method could be done entirely automatic but i can guess it would be a lot more work for u.

Anyway if i could already have the progam in completed .exe file with simple HD id and e-mail feature and key generation with the "minus" problem cleared i'd be so gratefull u wouldn't know. I thank u all in advance, sincerily, TacTiXs.

[Danial]

Is you application totally Web Based or you have a part which is windows apps. To read the things you mentioned such as HD Serial you will need to have an .exe running on user machine.

If thats the case then it should be simple enough, simply have a button in your .exe file which says register. When clicked on that button, it will read the HD serial and other info you want and then post it to an asp page using querystring.

Use that asp page to store the info in a database or a flat file and validate this when they login next time. I would send them an validation code to their email and get them to verify it before they can login.

I need more details to give you more specific instruction.

Hope this helps.

[TacTiXs]

Hello Danial and thx for your intrest to help with this

I'll explain what i wish to have as good as possible but as i said i was wondering if any of the members of this forum could make this thing to a finnished application because i dont have any skill in vb coding nor have the vb program itself to be able to make it or assemble it to a working .exe.

I'm gonna run an online gaming league where people register themselve for an account in order for them to be able to report games they have played versus other people. Those reported games will affect these players statistics on a ranking page which will show their current ranking place on a ladder.
Now because there r so many people that uses cheats in their game to take an unfair advantage oppon their opponent and this way get higher in the rankings, the league uses administrators that r volunteering to watch replays of those games, which r send in by players that believe have been cheated against.

When administrators find a player guilty of cheating in a replay, they lock that account and ban the player. But, dispite the hard work of those admins that try hard to keep cheaters away from the league it isnt an easy job and with common registration scripts it's easy for banned players to make a new account with new nicknames and e-mail adresses and come back on the league with their cheates.

This is why i would like to have a good registration method that would identify the person that is login in to the league or that wants to create a new account on the league. If i could have the hardware id of their HD for ex. i could store this information next to their account info and this way have a script on the website that checks if a HD id is either locked, banned, suspended or free to browse and acces personal account features.
I'm not sure which other hardware id would be reliable enough to add in the script so hopefully the hd id will be sufficient.

So basicly, i want new users to request an account on the league by downloading an .exe file to their desktop. When they launch the .exe a new window opens and act as a registration form asking them to enter data for :

* Username
* Password
* Verify Password
* First Name
* Last Name
* Birthday
* City
* State
* ZIP/Postal Code
* Country
* E-Mail (note: free e-mail accounts are not permitted, ex. @hotmail, @msn, @yahoo etc... e-mail must from paid service)
* Verify E-Mail
* Connection: Type 56K ADSL Cable SDSL T1 T3+
* Gender : Male Female
note( the asterix marked field are required information)

When they have entered all the information and everything seems to be entered right, they should then click on a button called " Request Account Creation".
When they click that button, the application then checks the eventual missing fields and ask the user to complete the form and then takes the harddisk id + the details entered by the registrant and r being automaticly e-mailed to either the league site or to a specific e-mail adress. and i would then manually create the user account based on his personal information.

After his account creation i will then send him his activation key, unless the hardware id matches with a locked, suspended or banned account.

I'd prefer ofcourse that it would be e-mailed to an asp page like u mentioned and the registration being completed entirly automated aswell as the HD id check which would determine if the account can be created or not.

But like i said above, i dont have any visual basic skill nor the needed program to create this thing and i would be tremendously gratefull if anyone could sort this out for me. I would be very glad already if i could simply have their registration + hd id sent to a specific e-mail adress and the rest i would take care from manually.
If u want to help me out on this and need more specific details u can ask me anything here or by mail and remember, i will credit ur name and work on my website.
Thanks in advance Danial, sincerily, TacTiXs.

[Danial]

Firstly do you already have a registration scheme?What technology are you using,e.g ASP,PHP? Are you storing registraton details in a Database if so what type of database. If your server supports asp then I will try to guide/help you implement what you described in your previous post.

Few more question, will your user be confortable enough to download and run an exe in order to register? I would suggest embed an ActiveX control in the page, but keep it in mind that it will only work on IE. Do you know what percentage of your user use browser other then IE?.

If server supports ASP and you are storing info in a Database such as Access or SQL Server then it shouldnt be too much.

Get back to me and I will let you know how you can proceed.

[TacTiXs]

Firstly do you already have a registration scheme?

If u read my first post, there is a link provided and will lead u to MartinLiss thread called " Program Registration Scheme" and in the first post of that thread u'll find a zip file containing the scheme discussed there. thats pretty much how i discovered the idea of the member registration scheme.
On further investigation i found another possibility which is to be found here and is called "AbyssLabs.UUIDGenerator Component" with free source code and example file.

What technology are you using,e.g ASP,PHP?

I just contacted my webserver provider and he told me the current config doesnt support .asp at the moment. He was however gonna check for solutions to that matter and contact me asap.
The webserver currently support php,cgi, perl 5, javascript.

Are you storing registraton details in a Database if so what type of database.

Yes i will store the registrations on a database under Mysql 4.0.21.

Few more question, will your user be confortable enough to download and run an exe in order to register? I would suggest embed an ActiveX control in the page, but keep it in mind that it will only work on IE. Do you know what percentage of your user use browser other then IE?.

The use of .exe based registration will be described in the terms and condition of the service usage. Users wont be able to ignore this since the registration page, explaning the terms and condition will ask them 3 up to 5 questions related to the filosophy and if they dont click the right multi choise answers they will be prompted to read again the terms and condition and aknowledge.

This Registration method is for their own safety within an online gaming comunity based on competition. It's their best chance to be able to play at a fair and cheatfree service. so i guess they will act in consideration of this plus a fair amount of gamers know me well and know that they can trust me.

For the browser question, i'm well aware of that and therefor i prefer an exe file without active x interaction, this to reduce eventual probs with users running other browsers than IE.

I hope i gave u the information u needed for now, thx again for ur help, TacTiXs.

[Danial]

If u read my first post, there is a link provided and will lead u to MartinLiss thread called " Program Registration Scheme" and in the first post of that thread u'll find a zip file containing the scheme discussed there. thats pretty much how i discovered the idea of the member registration scheme.
On further investigation i found another possibility which is to be found here and is called "AbyssLabs.UUIDGenerator Component" with free source code and example file.

I mean do you already have a system which stores user registration such as name adress and other details. Not program registration scheme.

I just contacted my webserver provider and he told me the current config doesnt support .asp at the moment. He was however gonna check for solutions to that matter and contact me asap.
The webserver currently support php,cgi, perl 5, javascript.

I am not familar with PHP or Perl, if you can get ASP then I can help you implement the whole solution.

If you cant get ASP support all i can do is help you write the exe and get the HD ID and simply post these details to an url or email. I will recommend posting to an url rather then email.

Yes i will store the registrations on a database under Mysql 4.0.21.

Will you use PHP/Perl/CGI to store the info to the Database?

Let me know your expereince level with the chosen scripting language..

[dglienna]

Martin's code requires each user to register. If more than one user exists on the computer, they both will have to register. Plus, if you use the hard drive serial number, the access code will be the same anyways. Don't use save settings/get settings to read/write to the registry.
I would have the system send the coded serial number each time the user plays, so that you can ban them on the spot. Instead of looking in the registry, the program could look on the web server for a code to compare the serial number code to. If you pull it, it won't be able to connect.

[TacTiXs]

I mean do you already have a system which stores user registration such as name adress and other details. Not program registration scheme.



I am not familar with PHP or Perl, if you can get ASP then I can help you implement the whole solution.

If you cant get ASP support all i can do is help you write the exe and get the HD ID and simply post these details to an url or email. I will recommend posting to an url rather then email.




Will you use PHP/Perl/CGI to store the info to the Database?

Let me know your expereince level with the chosen scripting language..

Well Danial, i dont have the league scripts running by now neither installed on the server. I'm still undecided what i'll use as community system.
I was thinking bout few possibilities like Using a cms and integrating the league in it. Or i would work with someone that will code the entire leaguescript and he would then integrate the registration sheme i'm discussing here with u in the scripts.

My skill about scripting either in cgi/php/or anything else r practicly nihil i'm affraid. I can make websites using javascript and behaviors and such but i always did that with the design view not the code view, occasionally i can customize some scripts parts to match my needs. for example i made this website totally from scratch with dreamweaver and used some scripts i found in free script website communities. An example of what i'm able to make is http://www.kadan.be

If u explain me what to do or can point me to a website that explain how this registration sheme can be integrated in a website i'll be able to work it out i'm sure.

I'll use php and the mysql database for a start and c if it all remains stable, if not i'll change from hosting company to work with asp.

So i guess if u could help me with this "If you cant get ASP support all i can do is help you write the exe and get the HD ID and simply post these details to an url or email. I will recommend posting to an url rather then email."

I'd be already very much helped out

the registration system i'll use will be quite simple like getting the info mentioned higher in post and send the activation key by mail to new users.

Hey, dglienna, thks for ur input here, i appreciate.
if more then one user exists for the same pc then i'll have to mannually create the second account and associate the two account id's to the same hd id with a variable and grant acces.

I'm not looking for some kind of anticheat that checks players while in game but rather a way to ban users that have been found guilty of cheating or using repetitive abusive and disrupting behavior and disabling them of creating a new account and come back unpunished.

[Danial]

Well Danial, i dont have the league scripts running by now neither installed on the server. I'm still undecided what i'll use as community system.
I was thinking bout few possibilities like Using a cms and integrating the league in it. Or i would work with someone that will code the entire leaguescript and he would then integrate the registration sheme i'm discussing here with u in the scripts.

Just out of curiosity what type of game is it?

I'll use php and the mysql database for a start and c if it all remains stable, if not i'll change from hosting company to work with asp.

So i guess if u could help me with this "If you cant get ASP support all i can do is help you write the exe and get the HD ID and simply post these details to an url or email. I will recommend posting to an url rather then email."

Sounds good, finish designing your system and design the the HTML form and if you give me the HTML form i can design that in an VB6 exe and either email it to an adress or Post it to an URL. PM me when you are ready, I will send you my email in my reply PM.

Good luck.

Hope I helped.

[TacTiXs]

OK Danial, thx for ur help. I will be busy for quite some time on my league system since its pretty big and rich featured, hope u'll still be there when i'm finnished

The games i want to support r mostly punkbuster supported games but some other aswell that r very popular, aswell as board and card games.

The biggest intrest however goes to advanced team tacsim games like Americas army, ghost recon 2 due out somewhere in march april this year.

[Danial]

OK Danial, thx for ur help. I will be busy for quite some time on my league system since its pretty big and rich featured, hope u'll still be there when i'm finnished

The games i want to support r mostly punkbuster supported games but some other aswell that r very popular, aswell as board and card games.

The biggest intrest however goes to advanced team tacsim games like Americas army, ghost recon 2 due out somewhere in march april this year.

Sounds like cool project. As for me staying well I have been around for a long tie, I seem to be addicted to this forum . So unless Mendhak abducts me I "should" be around.

[TacTiXs]

Hi again Danial,
I have been thinking on the registering question and concluded that i'd better register my users manually to the database via the admin control panel from the league sytem. This will increase the work for admins as they will have daily subscriptions to manage but i prefer it to be this way.

So, starting from that idea, all i would need in the application would be the following details;
*Desired Username (no special character allowed unless underscore "_")
*password
*confirm password (app should check if both entered passwords are the same)
*Paid E-mail adress (The provided e-mail adress should be from a paid service, not free e-mail accounts like hotmail, msn, yahoo etc..., as the application should send it from their machine, it should be automaticly be send from their isp e-mail account)
*confirm e-mail adress ( app should check if both entered e-mail adresses match)
Thats all, and on sending details to a predifined set of admin e-mail adresses, the app should automaticly pick up the client harddrive serial number provided by manufacturer (not a virtual serial) and be included in the registration e-mail.

Voila, i really hope u can help me with this Danial and as i have promised i'll credit u on the website for ur help in this and will also provide a link to u (site or e-mail) but i'd need u to never give out the source code from this app to anyone coming from my league to avoid hacking off this app.
It would be nice aswell if u could make it so that u would built an anti reverse enginering in the app so that if anyone would want to customise it it would become useless.

Would it also be possible that each e-mail send by the application could have some verification id (such as a signature from the application, sent as attachment or something) so that i can make sure the e-mail has been sent by the app and not directly from an e-mail account from a user that tries to fake it?

I'd love to have the source code myself for educational purpose so i can c how it all works cause i started looking into vb and i will download a trial version of the program, it looks very usefull.

Many thanks in advance Danial, i will now check which e-mail adress the app should send details to.

The adress to which data should be send too is " [email protected] "