[UK] Travellers - Should We Be Afraid

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The man next door was almost beaten to death by a group of travellers on Christmas eve for going to retrieve some of his tools that they stole. He's still in intensive care, has had braain surgery and is at this moment unable to walk. Although the police have the names and addresses of the perportraitors they refuse to go near them.

I know for a fact that not all travellers are like this, the majority are descent human beings, so why are the police so afraid of bringing those in the wrong to justice?

[Valleysboy1978]

The man next door was almost beaten to death by a group of travellers on Christmas eve for going to retrieve some of his tools that they stole. He's still in intensive care, has had braain surgery and is at this moment unable to walk. Although the police have the names and addresses of the perportraitors they refuse to go near them.

I know for a fact that not all travellers are like this, the majority are descent human beings, so why are the police so afraid of bringing those in the wrong to justice?

Or even decent human beings?
As to why the cops won't go near them? Probably because of the "Human Rights", flippin' PC brigade again!
And of course, the main problem I would imagine is getting the evidence

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Or even decent human beings?
As to why the cops won't go near them? Probably because of the "Human Rights", flippin' PC brigade again!
And of course, the main problem I would imagine is getting the evidence

Nobody should be allowed to get away with it!! The guys son next door knows where they live and apprently there were loads of people watching, but the police wouldnt' go to the caravan park and question any of them as witnesses.

[mendhak]

I'm a traveler, I'll be traveling tomorrow as a matter of fact. Is there anything dangerous about me?

[MasterBlaster]

Nobody should be allowed to get away with it!! The guys son next door knows where they live and apprently there were loads of people watching, but the police wouldnt' go to the caravan park and question any of them as witnesses.

I don't know about traveler caravans. If they are anything like the traveling tent cities (worthless tax sucking piece of sheit mentally sick fooking skumbags) in the US there numbers are usually in the high hundreds of people. Aren't the cops in the UK still foolishly unarmed? probably not worth getting a bunch of cops beat to death for a set of tools. Not saying it's right but that's probably their reasoning.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I'm a traveler, I'll be traveling tomorrow as a matter of fact. Is there anything dangerous about me?

Hoo boy! Is there ever!

We could go on at length, but just the acronym that is your name is bad enough:

My
Hiney
Exports
Noxious
Destruction
At
Humans

Scary scary scary! Why I hear that Alberto Gonzales declared "Geneva Convention? What Geneva Convention?" while thinking about you. Of course, he is always saying that regardless of what he's thinking about....especially sheep, but what's worse is that even Nelson Mandela found that he couldn't disagree with him in your case.

What the heck are the Travelers? Never have trusted that umbrella weilding pack of insurance agent freaks anyways! I just knew that company was hiding something!

[wossname]

Hoo boy! Is there ever!

We could go on at length, but just the acronym that is your name is bad enough:

My
Hiney
Exports
Noxious
Destruction
At
Humans

MHENDAH ???

Is this some strange usage of the word acronym that I wasn't previously aware of?

[wossname]

Gypsies are good for nothing other than going around shouting "d'ya like daaaags?", "buy some pegs gentle sir?" and "How about a bit of lucky heather?"

They remind me of the Flood from halo. You shoot one, it bursts open and is instantly replaced by 5 more.

[Shaggy Hiker]

MHENDAH ???

Is this some strange usage of the word acronym that I wasn't previously aware of?

Did you hear about the train in South Carolina (US) that was accidentally diverted onto the wrong track, ran into another parked train, and began leaking toxic chemicals?

Well, my brain just did the same thing! I have no idea how I got that name so utterly screwed up, especially considering that it can be found in every other post of the chit-chat forum.

[JPicasso]

All these terrible stories from the UK..

Sounds like a real sh**hole.

Has anyone from the UK NOT been the victim of some aweful violence?
Sounds like your society is self-destructing.


This is a serious post.
What is the deal with all the violent stories from the UK posters?
No just the regular news stories, but you guys are invovled or
your neighbor is or what not.

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All these terrible stories from the UK..

Sounds like a real sh**hole.

Has anyone from the UK NOT been the victim of some aweful violence?
Sounds like your society is self-destructing.


This is a serious post.
What is the deal with all the violent stories from the UK posters?
No just the regular news stories, but you guys are invovled or
your neighbor is or what not.

Personally I don't encounter too much voilence. The majority of viloence in this country is caused by alcohol. It doens't seem to be improving either, most people 17-30 bleieve the only way to enjoy themselves is to consume scripilous quantities of alcohol.

[mudfish]

Did you hear about the train in South Carolina (US) that was accidentally diverted onto the wrong track, ran into another parked train, and began leaking toxic chemicals?

9 deid so far!
Still 20 in ICU!
5000 had to leave their homes!
Still will not let them go home yet.

[JPicasso]

Personally I don't encounter too much voilence. The majority of viloence in this country is caused by alcohol. It doens't seem to be improving either, most people 17-30 bleieve the only way to enjoy themselves is to consume scripilous quantities of alcohol.

scripilous? *** is that?

did you mean copious? as in
1. Yielding or containing plenty; affording ample supply: a copious harvest. See Synonyms at plentiful.
2. Large in quantity; abundant: copious rainfall.
3. Abounding in matter, thoughts, or words; wordy: “I found our speech copious without order, and energetic without rules” (Samuel Johnson).

[Valleysboy1978]

All these terrible stories from the UK..

Sounds like a real sh**hole.

Has anyone from the UK NOT been the victim of some aweful violence?
Sounds like your society is self-destructing.


This is a serious post.
What is the deal with all the violent stories from the UK posters?
No just the regular news stories, but you guys are invovled or
your neighbor is or what not.

The problem is that if I started a fight on one of them, because a member of my family had been hurt by them, then it would be ME under assault charges. Our judicial system gives more rights to the perpetrator than the victim. Sad, but true.
It's even worse for me because I am a black belt, so if I punched someone in self-defence and drew blood (which I probably would), instead of being charged with Assault I am charged with Assault with a deadly weapon. Another 5 years jail on top.

It's just not worth getting involved, which is why there are few cases of people helping a stranger in trouble.

The problem comes from the judicial system. They hand out fines which deserve jail sentences. Jails are more like hotels. Police have few powers. It is usually assumed that the victim initiated the fight

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did you mean copious

Probably

[MasterBlaster]

The problem is that if I started a fight on one of them, because a member of my family had been hurt by them, then it would be ME under assault charges. Our judicial system gives more rights to the perpetrator than the victim. Sad, but true.
It's even worse for me because I am a black belt, so if I punched someone in self-defence and drew blood (which I probably would), instead of being charged with Assault I am charged with Assault with a deadly weapon. Another 5 years jail on top.

It's just not worth getting involved, which is why there are few cases of people helping a stranger in trouble.

The problem comes from the judicial system. They hand out fines which deserve jail sentences. Jails are more like hotels. Police have few powers. It is usually assumed that the victim initiated the fight

Simple then. After you kick the sheit out of them, rob them. Thereby reversing the role of the victim and the perpetrator.

[JPicasso]

Better still, move the US, arm yourself and your family.

And your fists of fury are not considered "deadly weapons".
Not compared to your semi-automatic mac-10 that you use for hunting.

[rdove]

Better still, move the US, arm yourself and your family.

And your fists of fury are not considered "deadly weapons".
Not compared to your semi-automatic mac-10 that you use for hunting.

yea..but don't move to Illinois, laws for acquiring firearms and carrying firearms suck there. Come to Indiana, it easy to get a gun and concealed carry permit here. As long as you have a clean criminal record you can buy a gun in about 25 minutes. You can have your Conceal Carry permit in about 4-6 weeks. But you don't have to have a permit to own or transport a gun. Only to transport it loaded and have it on your person (i.e. walk around with it in public).

Anyway I was just up in Chicago at the beginning of Dec for a conference. We coulda hooked up and partied

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Better still, move the US, arm yourself and your family.

And your fists of fury are not considered "deadly weapons".
Not compared to your semi-automatic mac-10 that you use for hunting.

Why is it humans are obsessed with firing high velocity small metal objects at each other?

[Valleysboy1978]

Simple then. After you kick the sheit out of them, rob them. Thereby reversing the role of the victim and the perpetrator.

will keep that in mind

[BodwadUK]

Their homes burn easy and the police wont care when they arrive because they will be high on the fumes

[BodwadUK]

Other countries sound alot nicer than this country I must confess.

I live in a good area with low crime rates but I have had 2 attempts to climb through my window while I am sleeping and one attempt on my car (nobody else in my family has had one crime to worry about since we moved here )

The law in the Uk is very much oriantated in the favour of the criminal. They keep talking about changing it but they wont because they are too cowardly to commit themselves to do it. The police are just as powerless because anything they do that harms someone starts an investigation. Many officers are placed under investigation even when they have to shoot an armed man to protect themselves or others.

The criminals who are caught are locked up for stupid amounts of time. Murder can get you 8 years but you can be released after 4 for good behaviour. Assualt can get you 2 months or something stupid and then money laundering or less harmful crimes can get you 5 years. The system is screwed.

Add to that any kids below 16 or something cant be arrested and just get sent away becasause equal rights says they dont know what they are doing

This country needs to be turned around when it comes to crime prevention. There is nothing for these criminals to fear.

The culture doesnt help because binge drinking is a big thing here and that causes probably 80% of all violent crimes

[dglienna]

it's the same in the US. cops aren't initiated untill they are investigated for doing something against the rules. it's a way of life around here. I've know very few good cops in my life. Even when I was a kid, my neighbor was a good cop, but I didn't see what he did when I wasn't around. My friends swore that he was a jerk, though.