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    Red face My friend wants to learn how to hack!!

    He's 18 years old and says he really wants to learn how to hack. And he wants ME to teach him. In real computing tarms he wants to be a cracker.

    What do you suggest I say to this immature kid?
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    Give him this.
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    He has his eye on my IP routing book and Windows 2000 security book. He is also going on about SSH tunneling to coneal his identity and break into the college network from his house.

    I'll give him that hax0r guide . Thanks
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    Just for the record my friend isn't me. I went though that stage at about 17 of downloading mail bombers and snooping tools and not really having a clue what to do
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    Tell him the internal word is nutter and then send him to the local looney bin to sign up
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    Report him to the authorities.
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    Originally posted by Slaine
    Report him to the authorities.
    I see your point, but what are they gonna do?
    You can't arrest someone for intend. As long as he is only thinking about it, and haven't actually done anything yet, they can't touch him...
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    Originally posted by pax
    I see your point, but what are they gonna do?
    You can't arrest someone for intend. As long as he is only thinking about it, and haven't actually done anything yet, they can't touch him...

    Attempt to murder is illegal as well...

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    Originally posted by Michael_Kamen
    Attempt to murder is illegal as well...
    Key word being "Attempt"
    This means that you actually did try it. That goes beyond "thinking"
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    I doubt he'll get very far. I don't intend on helping him either., not that I would be of much use.
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    Why does he want to hack anyway. You dont really gain anything unless you hack a bank and then you are likely to get caught anyway
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    Originally posted by pax
    Key word being "Attempt"
    This means that you actually did try it. That goes beyond "thinking"

    Planning a terrorist attack is punishable too..

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    Originally posted by BodwadUK
    Why does he want to hack anyway. You dont really gain anything unless you hack a bank and then you are likely to get caught anyway
    Maybe he thinks it'll help him get a girl friend.
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    Originally posted by Michael_Kamen
    Planning a terrorist attack is punishable too..
    True, but I'm pretty sure that's a special case, though.
    Especially after 9-11.
    And I'm sure there's other exceptions as well, but in general people still have the right to a free mind. At least in the western world.

    I could call the police and tell them that I was planning on speeding all the way home from work, and they would still not be able to do anything unless they actually catch me do it.
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    There's also freedom of speech, but that exists in theory too. So the right will always exist, and so will the exception

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    Originally posted by mendhak
    There's also freedom of speech, but that exists in theory too. So the right will always exist, and so will the exception
    True...
    Funny you should say that...
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    Originally posted by pax
    I see your point, but what are they gonna do?
    You can't arrest someone for intend. As long as he is only thinking about it, and haven't actually done anything yet, they can't touch him...
    In the UK new laws have recently been introduced that allow authorities to hold those 'suspected' of planning terrorists activities indefinately.

    Intent is assumed guilt - and I am sure hacking is considered a terrorist threat.

    But my comment was a flippant one anyhow. The last person who asked me the same question was given a BBC computer, several manuals on 6502 Assembler and told to come back when they had mastered it.
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    Originally posted by mendhak
    There's also freedom of speech, but that exists in theory too. So the right will always exist, and so will the exception
    Freedom of speeach DOES NOT exist in the UK - we have no legal constitution that enshrines this right.

    Quite the opposite in fact - we have laws that restrict certain speech - mostly hate and race based.
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    Originally posted by Slaine
    The last person who asked me the same question was given a BBC computer, several manuals on 6502 Assembler and told to come back when they had mastered it.
    At least it will keep him busy for a while...
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    Originally posted by pax

    Funny you should say that...
    OK, did I miss something?

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    Originally posted by Slaine
    Freedom of speeach DOES NOT exist in the UK - we have no legal constitution that enshrines this right.

    Quite the opposite in fact - we have laws that restrict certain speech - mostly hate and race based.
    We have some duality here. The constitution says we have free speech, but we are also restricted regarding discriminating remarks. (which in itself is fair, but still conflicting with the constitution...)
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    Originally posted by Slaine
    Freedom of speeach DOES NOT exist in the UK - we have no legal constitution that enshrines this right.

    Quite the opposite in fact - we have laws that restrict certain speech - mostly hate and race based.
    Interesting, I didn't know this. Is the media regulated or what's the deal with them? For example, if a newspaper came out slandering the entire Royal Family, what would happen to the newspaper?

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    Originally posted by mendhak
    OK, did I miss something?
    http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=311888
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    Ah yes. That's what I was thinking.

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    Originally posted by pax
    We have some duality here. The constitution says we have free speech, but we are also restricted regarding discriminating remarks. (which in itself is fair, but still conflicting with the constitution...)
    Iran is the best. The newspapers are heavily regulated, but this is consistently denied by the government. If any newspaper publishes an article that goes against the spiritual council, the editor goes missing. Mysteriously. And found days later, with a bullet hole in the head.

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    Originally posted by pax
    We have some duality here. The constitution says we have free speech, but we are also restricted regarding discriminating remarks. (which in itself is fair, but still conflicting with the constitution...)

    Same here..

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    Originally posted by mendhak
    Interesting, I didn't know this. Is the media regulated or what's the deal with them? For example, if a newspaper came out slandering the entire Royal Family, what would happen to the newspaper?
    Well that's three seperate issues really - Slander is an offence who ever it is directed at - be it joe blogs or Her Maj. I believe that is the case even in countries who do have 'Free Speech rights'. ie. your free to say it but I'm free to sue your backside off.

    Slander against the Queen/Royal familly could also be classed as treason, and until very recently (1999 I think) was still punishable by death. The Labour party changed the law but I think it still has a pretty serious jail term associated with it.

    And finally, yes the press is rectroactivly regulated - by this I mean they are free to print what they like, but action will be taken if it is illegal - such as inciting sexual or racial hatrid.
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    Originally posted by mendhak
    Interesting, I didn't know this. Is the media regulated or what's the deal with them? For example, if a newspaper came out slandering the entire Royal Family, what would happen to the newspaper?
    With half the things the royals get up to, the media would probably win the case!

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    In China, bank robbery is a capital offence.

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    In Saudi Arabia, attempted suicide is punishable by death.

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    Originally posted by mendhak
    In Saudi Arabia, attempted suicide is punishable by death.
    Cool. Thats a Win-Win situation
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    In the UK attempting to break INTO a prison will get you a 2 year stretch.
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    Originally posted by Slaine
    In the UK attempting to break INTO a prison will get you a 2 year stretch.
    In Holland, however, breaking out is not punishable.
    If you're caught again, you'll still have to sit out the remainder of your sentence, but you don't get some extra..

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    In S.Korea, cops must report all bribes they receive.

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    Ok, I have no idea how true this is, so I copy-paste:

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    It is illegal to go to college unless you are intelligent.

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    On the island of Jersey it's against the law for a man to knit during the fishing season.

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