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  1. Oct 15th, 2004, 05:54 PM #1
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    Endangered species: US programmers

    Between patents and outsourcing, yes, we're screwed. We can't go into business for ourselves without huge risk from a patent suit and we can't work for someone else because of outsourcing. It's a catch 22!

    Does anyone else predict that if people keep pushing to make products via cheapest labor that the world will no longer be able to buy products? It's like a rat race to poverty.

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    NO!!!!! I am an amature programmer! and want to go PRO when i finish colledge!
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    This topic has been covered several times. The answer that we all agreed on is that we need to form a league of super hero prostitutes.
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    mmm, super heros
    Here's to us!
    Who's like us?
    Darned few, and they're all dead!
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    Originally posted by demotivater
    mmm, super heros
    You missed the keyword!
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    http://www.bls.gov/emp/emptab3.htm

    why are "Computer software engineers" increaseing how exactly is this different from computer programmers??
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  8. Oct 16th, 2004, 12:31 AM #7
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    Originally posted by dogfish227
    http://www.bls.gov/emp/emptab3.htm

    why are "Computer software engineers" increaseing how exactly is this different from computer programmers??
    The word "Engineer" in a job title adds about $10,000 a year to a salary, other than that, technically nothing.

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    I think a slight amendment should be made to the title of this thread...

    Endangered species: Half-decent US programmers.

    There are shitloads of US coders out there many of them are script kiddies or Cobol writers ( ).
    I know several people that call themselves coders simply because they wrote a batch file 3 years ago.
    I don't live here any more.
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    Originally posted by ALL
    NO!!!!! I am an amature programmer! and want to go PRO when i finish colledge!
    NO!!!! you are an amature and want to learn how to spell college by the time you finish that.
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    Originally posted by dogfish227
    http://www.bls.gov/emp/emptab3.htm

    why are "Computer software engineers" increaseing how exactly is this different from computer programmers??
    It doesn't show for example, how many of them are USA citizens. There is many in america with visa's that will work for a lot less.
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  13. Oct 16th, 2004, 05:40 AM #11
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    Originally posted by Lunatic3
    NO!!!! you are an amature and want to learn how to spell college by the time you finish that.
    pwnd!
    I don't live here any more.
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    Let's all go to India and take their jobs! :lynchmob:
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    Originally posted by mendhak
    Let's all go to India and take their jobs! :lynchmob:
    But I don't wanna be a helpdesk operator!
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    isn't this usually how industry works? why are we complaining?

    we make something great, it gets old and someone else does it for us as we move on to bigger and better things.

    so I say too many people want to be "coders" because of the image, and they think it will be "cool". I chose against it because I decided I wanted to do something more interesting with my life than sitting at a monitor picking out bugs for the rest of my life.

    Programming is a skill, not a career.
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    and after reading my post you can tell that I didn't switch to an english major
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  18. Oct 16th, 2004, 11:18 AM #16
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    Originally posted by Maven
    It doesn't show for example, how many of them are USA citizens. There is many in america with visa's that will work for a lot less.
    Still it puts the job in the first qutile meaning its at the top income level.
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    Originally posted by crptcblade
    This topic has been covered several times. The answer that we all agreed on is that we need to form a league of super hero prostitutes.

    www.google.com - Pay Tribute.

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