Originally posted by Xanith
You're from Canada right? I guess that is why all your doctors and nurses are working here huh? Or why anyone who has any serious illness or problems come to the US instead of taking their chances under the Canadian Health System. Not to mention the people who have to wait long periods of time for any kind of extrodinary care. Sure it's free but it can't help you if you die waiting for treatment.

No offense but Canada's system is hardly a model for the world either, another perfect example of why socialized medicine doesnt work. Canada's health care system is great as long as you dont get sick

But this thread was about the debate. To be honest I think Bush won the 3rd debate and the 2nd while Kerry clearly won the 1st. Of course it doesn't matter who wins the debates but who wins the election.

X
I'm sorry, but your facts seem to be somewhat hilariously distorted. I've never heard of anyone (in Alberta) having any complaints. I bust both my arms a few years back, and the care was exemplary. My father had a heart atack here two years ago and they were brilliant, straight into intensive care, really good, stents etc.

He's got a bit of a cold that's causing him to wheeze a bit when he coughs, so they're taking him in for a CAT scan. How long did he have to wait for this non-critical use of expensive equipment.... two weeks (and part of that is they're waiting for blood tests to come back).

You can keep repeating the mantra that free public health care (the term socialised sounds like a bit of an American political thingy) is bad, yet you talk to anyone who actually goes through it and I think you'll find it's invaluable. You see, there is still private care if you want to go that way, but at the end of the day no-one is left out of the system. How do you justify a doctor not treating someone because they can't afford it, this is (IMHO) disgraceful.

Almost all western countries practice free public healthcare with the notable exception of the states. The US system is third world (again IMHO). As for charging $10 for an aspirin etc. How does that benefit anyone? Face facts, there's lots of great things that Americans should be proud of (NASA etc.) but your 3rd world health care system isn't one of them.

But, unwittingly I seem to have touched upon one of the crux's of the many problems faced by your country. You see, most other countries will admit that there's things terribly wrong with their countries (Britains health care system has been underfunded for a few years now, the military have been very heavy handed in NI etc. Canada's government is weak on foreign policy, and the election system is hopelessly flawed) Yet, it's very rare that you see an American admit anything is wrong with their own internal systems (as opposed to their government). They appear to be so hung up with national pride that it doesn't let them focus (and therefore fix) internal problems. You've been telling yourselves that having no public healthcare is good for so long, that now you honestly believe it. You've convinced yourself that allowing all your citizens to own guns is a really good idea, you pride yourself in a policy that strenghtens Castro's hand in Cuba, and convince yourself that it's going to work someday.... It might make things clearer to take off the rose coloured spectacles and take a long hard look at the US from the real world.