Russian Response to Attack

[DeadEyes]

The country's Chief of Staff General
Yuri Baluevsky said the military would
liquidate bases used by terrorists even
if they were outside Russia.

He added this did not mean his country
would launch nuclear strikes.

They won't be launching nukes, that's reassuring...
Hold on why did he even feel the need to qualify his statement? That means they've thought of it!

[Memnoch1207]

Wow!

If you have ever seen any of those "Scariest Police Videos" shows, then you know the Russians can be brutal!

I don't think the terrorists are going to like what happens now!
It won't be like the U.S., no red tape, etc... They'll just find them and kill them!

[Shaggy Hiker]

I'm not so sure about that, the Russians don't have the best track record of success lately.

[Foxer]

It's true the Ruskies have a poor recent history, but those terrorists were so desperate, I can't see how even the best special forces in the world could get a better result.

Unfortunately.

All those kids on their first day of school ...

And does anyone know how many "coppers" were killed? CNN reports it as each officer went in knowing of the bombs and expect to not make it out.

They each deserve medals IMO.

[lokespas]

yeah all we need is another one party dictatorship running around the world on a killingspree.

[CORONA BEER]

Originally posted by DeadEyes
They won't be launching nukes, that's reassuring...
Hold on why did he even feel the need to qualify his statement? That means they've thought of it!

Of course they have thought of it, i'm thinking of launching nukes right now, at north korea.

[DeadEyes]

Originally posted by CORONA BEER
Of course they have thought of it, i'm thinking of launching nukes right now, at north korea.

yes but you can't do it, they can.

[CORONA BEER]

Originally posted by DeadEyes
yes but you can't do it, they can.

well if they do, i'll be sure to load my glock and pray like a mother****er

[lokespas]

they can´t they sold all there nukes to Iran, north korea and Texas.

[DeadEyes]

The Russians really did embrace capitalism

[Xcoder]

Originally posted by DeadEyes
The Russians really did embrace capitalism

but they obviously have their own version.

[mendhak]

Everyone has their own version. We simply think that any country that doesn't follow our way is flaunting rules or doing things the wrong way.

No country ever follows the theoretical description of their version of government. Name one true democracy and I'll buy you a six-pack of Budweisers.

[davebat]

Cuba

[mendhak]

Please allow 6 to 8 weeks for the beer to reach you.

[honeybee]

Originally posted by Gary Campbell
It's true the Ruskies have a poor recent history, but those terrorists were so desperate, I can't see how even the best special forces in the world could get a better result.

Unfortunately.

All those kids on their first day of school ...

And does anyone know how many "coppers" were killed? CNN reports it as each officer went in knowing of the bombs and expect to not make it out.

They each deserve medals IMO.

Medals? Hmmm.....

How about Putin decided to show how firm he was in dealing with terrorists at the cost of hundreds of dead and missing kids? Immediately after the special forces invaded the school, till now, there's been no comment from Putin about the whole massacre. Surely it was better to allow medical and food supplies to reach the kids first, negotiate and then try the last route? And the statement quoted above that Russia will destroy terrorist bases, even outside Russia, just echoes what Israel has been doing all the while, what Bush is doing now. Increase violence to dominate more and more territory and resources.

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[CORONA BEER]

Vote for Bush

[ralph]

Bush would be wise not to get too chummy with Putin. Putin is a putrid human being. He might wind up killing more moderate chechnyans. We already have enough eggs on our face looking like hypocrites.

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by honeybee
Medals? Hmmm.....

How about Putin decided to show how firm he was in dealing with terrorists at the cost of hundreds of dead and missing kids? Immediately after the special forces invaded the school, till now, there's been no comment from Putin about the whole massacre. Surely it was better to allow medical and food supplies to reach the kids first, negotiate and then try the last route? And the statement quoted above that Russia will destroy terrorist bases, even outside Russia, just echoes what Israel has been doing all the while, what Bush is doing now. Increase violence to dominate more and more territory and resources.

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If Putin had a pair he would have fired a nuke right down the chimney of that school and said fook em and then turned chechniahomeoftheimbrednutcasestan into a crater. Of course his generals would have to remember where they burried their nukes in the first place.

[honeybee]

Originally posted by MasterBlaster
If Putin had a pair he would have fired a nuke right down the chimney of that school and said fook em and then turned chechniahomeoftheimbrednutcasestan into a crater. Of course his generals would have to remember where they burried their nukes in the first place.

So now we have a race between America and Russia to prove who can deal more effectively with terrorism. Of course Sharon is a close contender too Let's see who gets wiped out first, now. US, Russia or Israel?

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[CORONA BEER]

Originally posted by honeybee
So now we have a race between America and Russia to prove who can deal more effectively with terrorism. Of course Sharon is a close contender too Let's see who gets wiped out first, now. US, Russia or Israel?

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Not really.. It takes nations working together to deal more effectively with terrorism. it is a worldwide problem.

[honeybee]

Originally posted by CORONA BEER
Not really.. It takes nations working together to deal more effectively with terrorism. it is a worldwide problem.

"more effectively"? Means how? And don't cite Afghanistan or Iraq, both are complete failures as far as the so called "war on terrorism" is concerned. Iraq is not even related to the war on terrorism, unless you are GWB.

Afghanistan: Except in and around Kabul, there are tribals and warlords trying to rule the region. All the world attention is focussed on Iraq and everybody seems to have forgotten Afghanistan. It's almost back to the state in which it was before the invasion, which raises the question: What did the invasion achieve?

Look at the picture in Iraq: Car bombs, armed resistance to the occupying forces. Complete failure of the US government to think and plan the post-war scenario. While Bush will still enjoy frequent visits to his ranch though he has proved disastrous in planning the foreign policy and its execution, thousands of Iraqis will have paid the price for his mistakes. No end in sight to the violence and infighting, and the sole reason for this mess is the US invasion of Iraq.

Add to this Guantanamo Bay, the Chechenya conflict, Israel-Palestine war, threats from and against Syria, North Korea and you can get a fair idea as to what the "nations" are doing to "more effectively" tackle terrorism.

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[davebat]

Originally posted by honeybee
"more effectively"? Means how? And don't cite Afghanistan or Iraq, both are complete failures as far as the so called "war on terrorism" is concerned. Iraq is not even related to the war on terrorism, unless you are GWB.

Afghanistan: Except in and around Kabul, there are tribals and warlords trying to rule the region. All the world attention is focussed on Iraq and everybody seems to have forgotten Afghanistan. It's almost back to the state in which it was before the invasion, which raises the question: What did the invasion achieve?

Look at the picture in Iraq: Car bombs, armed resistance to the occupying forces. Complete failure of the US government to think and plan the post-war scenario. While Bush will still enjoy frequent visits to his ranch though he has proved disastrous in planning the foreign policy and its execution, thousands of Iraqis will have paid the price for his mistakes. No end in sight to the violence and infighting, and the sole reason for this mess is the US invasion of Iraq.

Add to this Guantanamo Bay, the Chechenya conflict, Israel-Palestine war, threats from and against Syria, North Korea and you can get a fair idea as to what the "nations" are doing to "more effectively" tackle terrorism.

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Yawn.... why do you twist everything said on world events into an anti bush rant. what Corona beer said made perfect sense.

[mendhak]

Yes Honeybee... the US is evil.

[CORONA BEER]

Originally posted by honeybee
"more effectively"? Means how? And don't cite Afghanistan or Iraq, both are complete failures as far as the so called "war on terrorism" is concerned. Iraq is not even related to the war on terrorism, unless you are GWB.

Afghanistan: Except in and around Kabul, there are tribals and warlords trying to rule the region. All the world attention is focussed on Iraq and everybody seems to have forgotten Afghanistan. It's almost back to the state in which it was before the invasion, which raises the question: What did the invasion achieve?

Look at the picture in Iraq: Car bombs, armed resistance to the occupying forces. Complete failure of the US government to think and plan the post-war scenario. While Bush will still enjoy frequent visits to his ranch though he has proved disastrous in planning the foreign policy and its execution, thousands of Iraqis will have paid the price for his mistakes. No end in sight to the violence and infighting, and the sole reason for this mess is the US invasion of Iraq.

Add to this Guantanamo Bay, the Chechenya conflict, Israel-Palestine war, threats from and against Syria, North Korea and you can get a fair idea as to what the "nations" are doing to "more effectively" tackle terrorism.

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Sorry, but your world views are sad. who said anything about Bush or Iraq or even Afghanistan? sharing intelligence is what I was getting at, but it seems that your so used to sharing ignorance that you didn't understand

dont cry to me, call the white house.

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by honeybee
So now we have a race between America and Russia to prove who can deal more effectively with terrorism. Of course Sharon is a close contender too Let's see who gets wiped out first, now. US, Russia or Israel?
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I'd have to say the US is doing the best job for themselvs. They're fighting terrorists in someone elses country(Iraq and Afgan), not their own. They've also found a way to fight a war against Syria and Iran without actually being deployed in Syria or Iran. Yea It sucks bigtime for Iraq who are caught in the middle of someone elses war but hey, Pretty good strategy by Bush to move the fighting from NYC and the capital to some sheithole that no one in the US could give two buckets of crap about. Putin and Sharon are fighting in their own back yard. Maby they should send troops to france so the terrorists attack them there instead.

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by honeybee
"more effectively"? Means how? And don't cite Afghanistan or Iraq, both are complete failures as far as the so called "war on terrorism" is concerned. Iraq is not even related to the war on terrorism, unless you are GWB.
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Not true, they are totally related to the war on terrorism. Iraq especially. We are not fighting (for the most part) Iraqi's any more. we are fighting Iranian, syrian and saudi terrorists, In Iraq. Why go looking for them when they will come to you. Brilliant strategy. Bait them with democracy. when they get there to destroy it, blow the basterds up. We're at a 20+ to 1 kill ratio right now so we've already taken out over 20,000 of them in Iraq alone. The ratio in Afgan Is even higher.

[Ex-FB]

Originally posted by MasterBlaster
Not true, they are totally related to the war on terrorism. Iraq especially. We are not fighting (for the most part) Iraqi's any more. we are fighting Iranian, syrian and saudi terrorists, In Iraq. Why go looking for them when they will come to you. Brilliant strategy. Bait them with democracy. when they get there to destroy it, blow the basterds up. We're at a 20+ to 1 kill ratio right now so we've already taken out over 20,000 of them in Iraq alone. The ratio in Afgan Is even higher.

Yes, but the problem is, how many of them were terrorists before the invasion of Iraq..... I think we just provided Al-Queida with the greatest recruiting drive on the planet and validated their sick justifications for 9/11.

[demotivater]

Originally posted by Ex-FB
Yes, but the problem is, how many of them were terrorists before the invasion of Iraq..... I think we just provided Al-Queida with the greatest recruiting drive on the planet and validated their sick justifications for 9/11.

Join Al-Qaeida today! Die tomorrow!

We certainly didn't create these terrorists by invading Iraq. We just provided a field for them to show themselves on.

[CORONA BEER]

Originally posted by demotivater
Join Al-Qaeida today! Die tomorrow!

We certainly didn't create these terrorists by invading Iraq. We just provided a field for them to show themselves on.

Right, like the *******s said, today i want to be a terrorist.. haha they were born terrorists. get your flamethrowers.

[Ex-FB]

I must re-read this thread from the top and se how we got from Russia to Bush bashing again.......

[Cander]

Happens in every forum I visit now when there is any world or politcal post.

At 3dbuzz.com, a post about the Korth Korea mushroom cloud incident turned into a Bush bash-a-thon as expected.

Yes. All Americans eat babies. We are all just evil.

[demotivater]

Originally posted by Ex-FB
I must re-read this thread from the top and se how we got from Russia to Bush bashing again.......

I think that's just the general theme of this forum. No matter what happens in the world, somehow it's Bushs fault. Maybe Kerry is reading this and getting his campaign advice?

[demotivater]

Originally posted by Cander
Happens in every forum I visit now when there is any world or politcal post.

At 3dbuzz.com, a post about the Korth Korea mushroom cloud incident turned into a Bush bash-a-thon as expected.

Yes. All Americans eat babies. We are all just evil.

mmmm.....babies

[CORONA BEER]

Originally posted by demotivater
I think that's just the general theme of this forum. No matter what happens in the world, somehow it's Bushs fault.

Europeans have never started a war, only Bush.

[Cander]

Bush destroyed the ozone layer

[Ex-FB]

Originally posted by demotivater
I think that's just the general theme of this forum. No matter what happens in the world, somehow it's Bushs fault. Maybe Kerry is reading this and getting his campaign advice?

Nah - I think it's just certain members who like to turn it that way.

Much as I think Bush is an idiot, he's not responsible for 90% of the screwed up things in this world.

What sort of sauce is on the babies?

[Cander]

What sort of sauce is on the babies?

Lemon butter and goat cheese.

Id use Cheddar but Bush ate the entire worlds supply of cheddar. Thats why he invaded Iraq. For the cheddar.

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by Ex-FB
Yes, but the problem is, how many of them were terrorists before the invasion of Iraq..... I think we just provided Al-Queida with the greatest recruiting drive on the planet and validated their sick justifications for 9/11.

You are probably right but who cares. The morons strapping on the TNT filled underpants are blowing up stuff in their own back yard now, not in The US or GB. The Coallitions are dividing the terrorist hotbeds middle east. Pakistan is contained by Coallition occupied Afganastan in the west and contained by India to the east. Iran is contained to the east by Coallition occupied afgan and to the west by US occupied Iraq. the rest of the middle east is pinned between Israel and Iraq. Perfect strategy. Fight them there in their own back yard. It the terrorists want to move around they have to go through allied troops in Democratic countries. Brilliant!

The only problem is Russia. They need to grow a pair and start doing the same. China as well, Korea should be a parking lot by now.

[honeybee]

Originally posted by Ex-FB
Nah - I think it's just certain members who like to turn it that way.

Much as I think Bush is an idiot, he's not responsible for 90% of the screwed up things in this world.

What sort of sauce is on the babies?

I don't know if that comment was directed against me and I don't much care if it was.

Here's something to think about: Imagine there'd been no 9/11, and you have this school massacre in Russia. Do you think Putin would make the same comments now, without any 9/11 and without the US actively preaching and practising the doctrine of preemptive strikes (without reliable intelligence) ? What are the chances US would start taking up a human rights cause against the atrocities committed by Russian forces in Chechnya? What are the chances the US would try to destabilise the region further by providing aid to the Chechen rebels, directly or indirectly, politically, financially and militarily?

I firmly believe that before 9/11, only Israel was the country which resorted to such invasion into foreign territory. After 9/11, get yourself on buddy terms with the US and you can do it whenever and wherever you can. Leaders who have more military might than their counterparts are getting more violent and aggressive in talk and action. The doctrine of preemptive strike permits them that, whether it is justified or not.


Sharing of intelligence? I guess we all know what intelligence the US president relied upon when invading Iraq. There was no reliable intelligence at all. When you compare the actions of the US in Iraq and the aftermath, that kind of intelligence could compare well to the voices in one's head.

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[davebat]

Why do you only ever mention the US when you talk about the invasion of Iraq?