java editor?

[MrPolite]

I'm downloading JBuilder X ("trial" ahem)...
I'm not really a big java fan so I don't know much about the different editors that are available out there. I'll be making small apps for a somewhat basic programming class. Any suggestions on what editor I should use? is JBuilder any good?

[Dillinger4]

Ive used Eclipse, various JBuilder versions and two JCreator builds. All worked good.

[Dillinger4]

Never used Gel before. Maybe ill give it a try when i get my new computer.

[kleptos]

There is a version of Java that comes with an editer called NetBeans. Its pretty cool, and has a lot to offer. Its either NetBeans or JavaOne Studio. One or the other, or both.

[brown monkey]

i use an unregistered textpad. can't afford.

[CaptainPinko]

Netbeans is great if you got the hardware to run it. It's supports Java 5 in the 4.0-beta. It is still rapidly evolving and I can't think of any editor theat I've ever enjoyed working more with. Visual Basic may have had better WYSIWYG editor, but thats it. Really if you don't give NetBeans a try you are just hurting yourself. Hell, Sun wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't.

[MrPolite]

anyone uses vs.net IDE to write java??I installed J# and it seems to compile native java code pretty good and it's an awesome editor...
why not use that?

[brown monkey]

dunno much about this thing but it seems that j# doesn't recognize env var classpaths. i tried this on j# and fails on classnotfound exception

package ConsoleApplication2;

import java.sql.*;
public class sample
{
    public sample()
    {
        //
        // TODO: Add Constructor Logic here
        //
    }

    /** @attribute System.STAThread() */
    public static void main(String[] args)
    {
        //
        // TODO: Add code to start application here
        //
        Connection cn;
        try
        {
            Class.forName("com.mysql.jdbc.Driver");
            cn=DriverManager.getConnection("jdbc:mysql:///northwind");
            System.out.println("connected");
        }
        catch(Exception ex)
        {
            ex.printStackTrace();
        }
    }
}

but this is working with javac

import java.sql.*;
public class sample
{
    public sample()
    {
        //
        // TODO: Add Constructor Logic here
        //
    }

    /** @attribute System.STAThread() */
    public static void main(String[] args)
    {
        //
        // TODO: Add code to start application here
        //
        Connection cn;
        try
        {
            Class.forName("com.mysql.jdbc.Driver");
            cn=DriverManager.getConnection("jdbc:mysql:///northwind");
            System.out.println("connected");
        }
        catch(Exception ex)
        {
            ex.printStackTrace();
        }
    }
}

so perhaps built in packages such as java.* differs from j# and java. just a guess though. thoughts?

[MrPolite]

hmm
aah ok I'm confused now.


I tried referencing the vsjlib library that's provided by Visual Studio in C# and it works perfectly fine. So I can use the java functions in C#.... I dont understand though, so are these not the real java functions written by SUN? is this just another implementation of java created by microsoft?
like if you dont have the java runtime files and you only have .NET installed, would you be able to run a J# program?

I'm just not sure if I correctly understand how this whole j# thingie works

[CornedBee]

J# is NOT Java. It is a language that emulates Java. J# is integrated into the .Net framework and uses the classes from there. It has exactly the same syntax as Java. It provides compatibility classes for many classes from the Java SDK.

But you cannot, for example, use Java classes you downloaded with J#. The J# Java tree is considerably smaller than even the default Java tree that comes with J2SE.

J# was created solely to lure Java programmers to .Net (or, as MS puts it, to ease the transition). I highly recommend not using it.

[MrPolite]

Originally posted by CornedBee
J# is NOT Java. It is a language that emulates Java. J# is integrated into the .Net framework and uses the classes from there. It has exactly the same syntax as Java. It provides compatibility classes for many classes from the Java SDK.

But you cannot, for example, use Java classes you downloaded with J#. The J# Java tree is considerably smaller than even the default Java tree that comes with J2SE.

J# was created solely to lure Java programmers to .Net (or, as MS puts it, to ease the transition). I highly recommend not using it.

aha ok, I agree
but I may just use the VS.net editor while I take this java class. I hate all the other editors.

[CornedBee]

Feel free to use the IDE to write the code. It's a nice IDE, after all.

[BramVandenbon]

NetBeans has intellisense, has a form developper, ... and thats a really good thing. But it takes 200 MB of hardspace and uses 512 MB RAM.

I heared JCreator Pro has intellisense too, but thats not free though :-s There is a Shareware JCreater version too ... but that one does not have Intellisense.

BlueJ is also nice to work with. Allthough it does not have intellisense and no formbuilder.

If you have a lot of Memory and harddisk space I would go for NetBeans without thinking twice !!!

I don't know about Visual Studio ... does it give intellisense on the native Java classes too ?

[MrPolite]

Originally posted by BramVandenbon
NetBeans has intellisense, has a form developper, ... and thats a really good thing. But it takes 200 MB of hardspace and uses 512 MB RAM.

I heared JCreator Pro has intellisense too, but thats not free though :-s There is a Shareware JCreater version too ... but that one does not have Intellisense.

BlueJ is also nice to work with. Allthough it does not have intellisense and no formbuilder.

If you have a lot of Memory and harddisk space I would go for NetBeans without thinking twice !!!

I don't know about Visual Studio ... does it give intellisense on the native Java classes too ?

ok BlueJ?I call that BlueGay, it's really stupid.... hehe it's good for the beginners though I guess.
Well I dont know what to say. I've tried all the editors mentioned in this thread. NetBeans seems to be pretty good. JBuilderX isnt bad either. I'm still more comfortable with visual studio. But that could be only because I'm used to visual studio (cuz of VB and C#).... I think NetBeans is great since its free. JBuilder seemed a little confusing and I couldnt even manage to build a java file (it required to build a whole project ), so hehe I gave up on that.