Thank god Bush is the president

[JPicasso]

interesting.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/gregory2.html

[CORONA BEER]

Yea, it would have sucked if Al gore was the president.

[JPicasso]

Heh heh.

My hope is that I'll be able to complain about a different president next year.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Me too. Life is too short to complain about the same person for eight years straight. I missed out on Ford and Carter, because I was too young, but I have managed to complain about only four presidents since then. That's not enough by a large number.


What would have happened had it been Gore? My analysis concludes that the second plane would have sucked a duck into the left engine and crashed into the Hudson, which would have spared one whole tower. Therefore, based on that analysis, we would have been clearly better off with Al Gore as president. However, I also calculated that had we elected Mr. Hubert P. Dienthwaite of Mesa Verde, Indiana, all of the 911 hijakers would have died of food poisoning back in July of 01.

Of course, my point is that we cannot predict what other path the world would have taken had we made a different choice at some previous point.

[Ex-FB]

I don't think Gore would have been any better, and I'm not convinced that Kerry will be either. 280 odd million people and those are the best you guys can come up with? Stick Bill gates in power, see how he gets on.

[Shaggy Hiker]

The problem is that you need to appeal to at the very least, a significant minority of those 280 million....or at least the 1.4 million that actually vote, maybe that's the problem.

Ok, that's bad grammar, but so what?

You will never be able to elect a really dynamic leader, because a majority of the people will vote AGAINST them. I can't say I'm thrilled with Kerry, but I prefer him to Bush. Therefore, I will vote AGAINST Bush, rather than FOR Kerry. I suspect there is a very large segment of the public that votes this way. Thus, with our system, the vote may always be for the lesser of two evils, rather than for the best person.

[Foxer]

{possible thread hijack}

In many countries, like Australia, voting is mandatory for those of voting age.

Why is it not so in the USA? Is there a reason/history behind that?

[mendhak]

Originally posted by Gary Campbell


In many countries, like Australia, voting is mandatory for those of voting age.

How is that a democracy then?

[Wally Pipp]

1 person, 1 vote. How much more democracy do you need?

[CORONA BEER]

"If u gots pubes u can vote`"
Ali-G-

[Shaggy Hiker]

I would like to see a change from the 1 person 1 vote. There are far better systems of voting out there by now. I think our system of government would be much better served if we switched to one of the forms of hierarchical voting.

[Cander]

Can you explain hierarchical voting? Never heared that term before.

Is it something like rank the following 5 candidates?

[Shaggy Hiker]

Aw heck, I probably made that up. I couldn't think of the proper term, and I wasn't sure if that was right or not.

There are several different forms with different pros and cons for each. Rank these candidates is one such possibility. Give each one a yes/no vote would be another possibility.

Either one would be an improvement over the current system. After all, I rarely vote FOR anybody anymore.

[wossname]

Who the **** is that John Ritter lookalike that I keep seeing on TV with his nose rammed up Kerry's ass. Simpering sycophantic gimp.

I like www.theonion.com article on kerry's campaign

[CORONA BEER]

Originally posted by Gary Campbell
{possible thread hijack}

In many countries, like Australia, voting is mandatory for those of voting age.

Why is it not so in the USA? Is there a reason/history behind that?

There is a reason...

they have laws preventing people convicted of felony crimes from voting in the U.S.

The only thing remotely close to what you are saying is the Draft..
that is mandatory when you get your licence. you dont have to register to vote though.

[dglienna]

if they prohibited those convicted of felonies from voting, it would eliminate a majority of those who *DO* vote.

[Wally Pipp]

If they did that, no-one in Australia would be allowed to vote ...

[dglienna]

they don't

[rdove]

Originally posted by CORONA BEER
There is a reason...

they have laws preventing people convicted of felony crimes from voting in the U.S.

The only thing remotely close to what you are saying is the Draft..
that is mandatory when you get your licence. you dont have to register to vote though.

Actually voting laws are per state. In Indiana, you can vote if you are a felon as long as your not still in prison.

In Maine and Vermont, everyone can vote, even prison immates.

[honeybee]

Originally posted by Ex-FB
I don't think Gore would have been any better, and I'm not convinced that Kerry will be either. 280 odd million people and those are the best you guys can come up with? Stick Bill gates in power, see how he gets on.

The major problem in any government is the bureaucracy, not the top people. If the government were run as Microsoft is run, maybe Bill Gates would make an ideal president, but practically for various reasons a government cannot be run as Microsoft. Sad to say, politicians and bureaucrats exploit this very fact to suit themselves. So if Bill Gates were to be elected as the US president, the bureaucracy would have him proved a failure and replace him with someone who will side with them.

And this is not an anti-US statement, mind ya, the same applies to almost every government, except a handful.

.

[Wally Pipp]

He'd release US XP and a security patch every other day

[JPicasso]

Originally posted by Gary Campbell
{possible thread hijack}

In many countries, like Australia, voting is mandatory for those of voting age.

Why is it not so in the USA? Is there a reason/history behind that?

How many countries are like Austrailia?

Mandatory voting would be an infrigment on our freedom, not to vote.

[Wally Pipp]

obviously if you don't vote, you have no right to complain about the administration.
Don't like it? Vote next time.

[RSINGH]

Vote for the All Night Party Party. You know it makes sense

[JPicasso]

WP, Exactly.

R, I vote for the All Night Party Party Par-tay! whoo whoo.

[demotivater]

Originally posted by Wally Pipp
obviously if you don't vote, you have no right to complain about the administration.
Don't like it? Vote next time.

That's what gets me about a lot of people that do nothing but complain about the government. "I didn't vote - I didn't like any candidate" or "it doesn't matter anyway, it will still suck".

Then run for office, or STFU!

[Wally Pipp]

Originally posted by RSINGH
Vote for the All Night Party Party. You know it makes sense

With chairman Brent Oozah?

[honeybee]

Originally posted by Wally Pipp
He'd release US XP and a security patch every other day

But at least you would be assured his security threats were much more credible

.

[honeybee]

Originally posted by Cander
Can you explain hierarchical voting? Never heared that term before.

Is it something like rank the following 5 candidates?

It's probably where you vote your representatives and they vote their representatives and they vote theirs, which then forms the government.

.

[dsheller]

Originally posted by wossname
Who the **** is that John Ritter lookalike that I keep seeing on TV with his nose rammed up Kerry's ass. Simpering sycophantic gimp.

I like www.theonion.com article on kerry's campaign

That would be John Edwards sir =)

He is a senator from my state, and I can tell you one thing... in the years he has held the senate seat he has done little to none for us =)

[Shaggy Hiker]

Originally posted by dsheller
That would be John Edwards sir =)

He is a senator from my state, and I can tell you one thing... in the years he has held the senate seat he has done little to none for us =)

Be thankful for that, our senator has done plenty for us, and our collective bung holes still hurt.

[Skitchen8]

Originally posted by Wally Pipp
obviously if you don't vote, you have no right to complain about the administration.
Don't like it? Vote next time.

I'm 17 and therefore cannot vote... so what the hell do you plan on making up as an excuse to try to shut me up??

God I hate you unpatriotic idiots... this country was founded on the right to ***** about your government. Unless that whole revolution thing that got us independence from Britain was because they liked the british rule.

[Memnoch1207]

Originally posted by Skitchen8
I'm 17 and therefore cannot vote... so what the hell do you plan on making up as an excuse to try to shut me up??

God I hate you unpatriotic idiots... this country was founded on the right to ***** about your government. Unless that whole revolution thing that got us independence from Britain was because they liked the british rule.

10 years from now you'll be in a McDonalds with an AK, yelling about the conspiracies and coverups of the government.

Loosen up your panties a little and relax.

[CORONA BEER]

Originally posted by Memnoch1207
10 years from now you'll be in a McDonalds with an AK, yelling about the conspiracies and coverups of the government.

Loosen up your panties a little and relax.

haha

[Wally Pipp]

Originally posted by Skitchen8
I'm 17 and therefore cannot vote... so what the hell do you plan on making up as an excuse to try to shut me up??

God I hate you unpatriotic idiots... this country was founded on the right to ***** about your government. Unless that whole revolution thing that got us independence from Britain was because they liked the british rule.

Pity I'm not even American to begin with. And unpatriotic? Wheeling out the old clichés I see. Why is it that you lot can't make a decent argument without resorting to simplifying the whole thing?

[Shaggy Hiker]

I am an American, and was going to make Wally's comment for him, but it occured to me that I haven't a clue what the voting age is over in Merry Olde England. I began to think that maybe you were BOTH from the island.

I didn't bother thinking about it anymore, because....well, because I just didn't care that much.