CSS - scrollbars

[Acidic]

I know that colouring the scrollbars is not allowed by the CSS standards, I even read this to confirm it. Does anyone know why they won't allow you to do this? Sometimes a page would look so much better with custom scrollbars.

[techgnome]

For a very simple reason: It's a MS proprietary thing with IE..... and it was/is never subitted for approval by the W3C.

TG

[Acidic]

Yes, I realised that. I was wondering why it was never approved. I suppose they could argue that it's changing the look of something the web developer should have no control over. They should be able to edit the page, not the browser used to vie the page.
I was just wondering why they didn't like the idea.

[visualAd]

They have broken the rules of the CSS statndard and they cannot be considered proprietary becuase they havn't even prefixed the name of the style with vendor.

This is the very reason why web development is so difficult, becuase a browser will claim to support a standard and only partially support it or make their own changes to the existing standard.

I don't even think they were submitted to W3C.

[techgnome]

It was never approved because it was never submitted. And if it was to be submitted, it would be denied because it's controling the look & feel of something outside the document. That would be like opening a book and suddenly yuor room turns purple. It shoudn't matter nor care what you are using to view the page with. It was neet effect for about 5minutes 7years ago, but now it's just down right annoying - I 've seen people turn it the same color as the page background, effectively rendering the scroll bar invisible... not such a good idea for those that may have trouble seeing.

TG

[Acidic]

So I was right then; it's because it's changing stuff outside of the DOM.

[Jop]

Yes it is because it´s part of the users enviroment. Let´s say the user has impaired vision and needs high contrast GUI. If the user has set up a nice setting for him/her to see and you´re changing it to a low-contrast setting, the user has lost it´s ability to navigate through your site.

The same applies to popup windows in my opinion, especially when removing broswerchromes.