IDE bugs

[Andy]

This morning, I had a meeting and brought up the fact that there a lot of quirks with the IDE in VS.net.

Then, it occured to me....I'm the only one here using XP and I'm the only one who's complained about bugs. I was hoping I could get the users here at the forum to post what operating system they use and what version of VisualStudio.net (2003, 2002) is on that machine. It may be a thing with XP, maybe not but it's worth researching.

[plenderj]

I use Windows XP Professional w/Visual Studio 2002, and Windows 2003 Server w/Visual Studio 2003... and it all seems fine to me...

[TLord]

Your problem may be machine dependent.

[wossname]

XP Home (Windows 5.1)
Both VC++.Net framework 1.0 (2002)
and
VB.net framework 1.1 (2003)

VC++ ide is FULL of bugs.

VB.net has very few bugs (but I'm sure my project will crash now I've said that)

[kleinma]

perhaps if you listed some of the bugs we could tell you if we experience the same thing or not.

[Mike Hildner]

One bug that I've noticed is using VB.NET for a smart device project. Sometimes the design side of the form just dissapears. In the solution explorer, the icon turns into the icon for a vb file instead of the form icon. When you double click, you get sent to the code, not the design.

I make sure I do not close the design view of the form for easy access, but if it's lost, you can recover by adding a new form. All the sudden, the icons change back into the form icon and when you double click, you get to the design view.

[Andy]

some of the bugs i've experienced are :

tab pages get randomly shuffled,
controls get moved out of place,
code get lost/deleted when saving to a network drive,
switching from design view to code view takes a very long time when a good handful of controls are in place

these are just some of the ones I can think of. Unfortunately, I haven't written anything down. I've always attributed these things as either my pc or my lack of skill lol But, as I grow as a developer, I still have these problems.

[salvelinus]

VS 2002 Pro, W2K Pro.
Somethimes when I use Help or Search, I get a message "Preparing to install" and the hourglass. If I hit cancel at the right time, the dialog box goes away. Other times it comes up three consecutive times, before diaplaying the topic.

[Andy]

Here's something interesting. I noticed that the controls i said were moving weren't moving at all. It's the mass of SURROUNDING controls that are moving. in other words, i have two textboxes that are stationary and about 30 control around them that drift south every time I start the debugger.

Now THAT"S strange

[PT Exorcist]

Originally posted by wossname
XP Home (Windows 5.1)
Both VC++.Net framework 1.0 (2002)
and
VB.net framework 1.1 (2003)

VC++ ide is FULL of bugs.

VB.net has very few bugs (but I'm sure my project will crash now I've said that)

Are you talking about IntelSense? All Intelsenses of c++ are full of bugs

[SuperSparks]

Windows XP Pro with Vis Sudio 2003 Enterprise Architect. The only one of those bugs that I've noticed is the tab order changing, which MS acknowledge as a known bug AFAIK.

[temp_12000]

Originally posted by SuperSparks
Windows XP Pro with Vis Sudio 2003 Enterprise Architect. The only one of those bugs that I've noticed is the tab order changing, which MS acknowledge as a known bug AFAIK.

XP Pro + Visual Studio 2003 Enterprise.

1) the toolbars always change their positions.
2) sometimes, the small icons on Solution Explorer disappeared.

[Andy]

Originally posted by temp_12000
XP Pro + Visual Studio 2003 Enterprise.

1) the toolbars always change their positions.
2) sometimes, the small icons on Solution Explorer disappeared.

aha! i thought that was just my computer memory being eaten up. lol that's happened several times too.

[Pirate]

Tab shuffling is not a bug . The solution is :

Just add the tabpage in the same order in code .

[vutle]

VS2003
WinXP pro

Nothing happened yet

[Buzby]

A couple of things I've noticed appear to be 'undocumented features' rather than bugs:

1. If you cut and paste an object on a form - the corresponding HANDLES part of the events for that object are lost - and because the HANDLES part is normally invisible off the side of the screen it can take ages to realise that's what's happened when you find that none of your events are firing.

2. .NET does insist of trying to write your code for you. I'm talking about it changing my object declarations seeminly randomly - I have an object declared "Friend" in one of my controls, if I open, change and save this control the "Friend" part goes AWOL and suddenly I get a pile of compiler errors because other objects can't see this object any more.

3. In ASP.NET the form design view does seem to get confused from time to time - the easy way to sort this out is to switch to the HTML view, and switch back to the design view - forcing it to have a re-think about the layout.

[Andy]

Originally posted by Pirate
Tab shuffling is not a bug . The solution is :

Just add the tabpage in the same order in code .

well, I thought that too awhile back and even wrote code to arrange them during form_load. they'll be in order for a while but even the code gets shuffled. it's the strangest thing to see code get re-arranged.

[nemaroller]

I'm running VS2003 on XP

1) When resizing a WebForm or even a Form in Design mode (making the form smaller), as soon as i release the mouse button, a new tab appears that then pulls up MSDN home.

2) Drifter Windows. Basically, sometimes, while step-debugging (f8), and then pulling up a command window (detached--floating), executing a query from the window, and then continuning with debugging, the command window interior goes transparent allowing the underlying contents to show threw.

Tooks me about a month to realize that instead of closing down the IDE, all i had to do was minimize it, and then restore it, and the vagrant window disappeared.

[Pirate]

Originally posted by Andy
well, I thought that too awhile back and even wrote code to arrange them during form_load. they'll be in order for a while but even the code gets shuffled. it's the strangest thing to see code get re-arranged.

I meant C#.NET . At least , the code never get scrambled . I had this tab disorder and I fixed it that way . Never get shuffled again .

[temp_12000]

Originally posted by nemaroller
I'm running VS2003 on XP

1) When resizing a WebForm or even a Form in Design mode (making the form smaller), as soon as i release the mouse button, a new tab appears that then pulls up MSDN home.

yes, I have this problem too. It is very annoying.

[Andy]

Originally posted by Pirate
I meant C#.NET . At least , the code never get scrambled . I had this tab disorder and I fixed it that way . Never get shuffled again .

another reason for me to switch to c#

[maged]

i had a very weard problem, i made several fixed size forms. They all share the same parent. I set their formborder to fixed and controlbox, max. , Min to false. But every time i creates an instance of this form. A New resizable window appear without respect to center screen or any predifined size !!!


that made me recreated a solution and reprogramm some forms that experienced the problem


Anyone knows what is this ????

[Webtest]

Esteemed Forum Participants and Lurkers:

.NET Framework 1.1 - VB.NET 2003

I'm trying to validate a directory, and I've come across a weird anomaly ...

I have a directory: C:\Table
The following

Dim attr As FileAttribute
Try
    attr = GetAttr("C:\\\\\Table\\\")
    If (attr And FileAttribute.Directory) = FileAttribute.Directory Then
        MsgBox("VALID")
    End If
Catch
    MsgBox("NOT valid")
End Try

Returns "VALID" - I would expect it to catch an exception for the invalid Path specification???

How do I report this to MS? Thank you for any comments, suggestions, or assistance.

[Andy]

This is a shot in the dark but I'm hoping to get a rep from MS to look at this thread. That's just one reason I wanted everyone to list their bad experiences.