Programming Class Popularity in your Learning Area

**Ideas Man** · Jul 15th, 2004, 09:48 AM

Just curious, how would you rate the popularity of programming at your school/uni/colledge etc.

I was talking to my software design and development teacher a couple of weeks back and she said that every year, SD&D numbers have been going down to critical levels in favour of the more english based subjects, it has with us and our class almost didn't run, we are under the student minimum limit, but we were lucky. Anyone else noticing this trend?

**SteveCRM** · Jul 15th, 2004, 10:05 AM

why are we complaining?

more jobs for us later in life

**Ideas Man** · Jul 15th, 2004, 10:17 AM

Maybe, but... if people don't wanna go into the industry, it will suffer because of tooo many job vacancies and projects will never be completed or very slowly.

**Maven** · Jul 15th, 2004, 10:19 AM

LOL it was always that way man!

I had this full class in computer science 1, it was about empty with computer science 2. lol

I'll never forget finals day in CPSC 1. We had to write this program that does a bunch of stuff and after we were all done, we get it graded and ****. This dude that was in the class got his finished and graded then sat down beside me staring at his grade. Then he looks at me and say's "I want to be a fireman, in fact I've always wanted to be a fireman".

It was a hard class I guess, in all a gril named becky and I were the only ones who passed.

**SteveCRM** · Jul 15th, 2004, 11:14 AM

really? my high school class was a joke

but its okay because this fall i'll be heading off to the college of new jersey...rock on electrical engineers!!!

**NoteMe** · Jul 15th, 2004, 11:22 AM

The 4 last years the applications for a CS at my school has dropped a lot. But it is just normal that people quit after a while.

We started as 50, athe next year we where 17, should be fun to see how many we are next year..

**Maven** · Jul 15th, 2004, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by NoteMe
The 4 last years the applications for a CS at my school has dropped a lot. But it is just normal that people quit after a while.

We started as 50, athe next year we where 17, should be fun to see how many we are next year..

Yea people think that their going to like computer science because they like surfing on the internet. Then when they get into a langauge like C++, their like... it's not for me!

**NoteMe** · Jul 15th, 2004, 11:42 AM

Yeah....thats soo true...or like to play videogames...hate people like that...I went there just becuase of programming, and I don't think we have enough of it...we should have much more...MUCH more..

**SteveCRM** · Jul 15th, 2004, 12:19 PM

i don't think i could handle 4 years of just programming, ugh I'd need some substance...gotta rock the electronics

**NoteMe** · Jul 15th, 2004, 12:25 PM

Only 4 years?? I am going to studdy it for 6, then work with it for the rest of my life....

**Pino** · Jul 15th, 2004, 01:05 PM

firstly programming isnt an option at school, and there only me and another guy which i know off that code, secondly i went to a college open day the other week and in the programmin class not one person bar me had ever evan used a programming language, some of them struggled using the mouse

its not soemthing thats avalible all that much around me, but if you were really interetsed in it, like me from a young age, you can teach yourself

(with the help of the VB Forums of course

)

**SteveCRM** · Jul 15th, 2004, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by NoteMe
Only 4 years?? I am going to studdy it for 6, then work with it for the rest of my life....

depends if i want to get a masters degree

**Ideas Man** · Jul 15th, 2004, 08:18 PM

Trouble is, at our school, we got lots of computers, hardly any of them are used for the computing subjects now-a-days, they are being displaced for the english subjects.

**NoteMe** · Jul 15th, 2004, 08:34 PM

We are using pen and paper on our programming exams...

**Ideas Man** · Jul 15th, 2004, 08:39 PM

In your SD&D class, do you have to learn railroad-diagrams and BNF and EBNF?

**NoteMe** · Jul 15th, 2004, 08:40 PM

What? What is SD&D, and what does a rail road have to do with programming..

**Ideas Man** · Jul 15th, 2004, 08:43 PM

Software Design and Development (SD&D) railroad diagrams show you the syntax of a language.

Actually, they all show you the syntax, the railroad diagram is a graphical form, the rest are text.

**NoteMe** · Jul 15th, 2004, 08:47 PM

Directly transelated to English what I am doing is called "Computer Technique", but I if I have understood it right it is more or less like a batchelour in CS over in USA.

Still havn't heard about railroad diagrams. We are just writing what we usualy do in a IDE on paper. Nothin diffrent from that.

**Ideas Man** · Jul 15th, 2004, 08:51 PM

Yeah, i didn't expect anyone to know what they were, our department of education feels it's necessary to teach us topics that are long since dead and aren't used at all in modern day programming. For people who don't know, they are what the tooltips in the VS IDE show to instruct you how to do a command i.e. Messagebox.Show. That's the modern form of the 3 examples i gave.

**NoteMe** · Jul 15th, 2004, 08:52 PM

Intelly Sense is that called..

**Ideas Man** · Jul 15th, 2004, 08:58 PM

That's a part of it.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...Completion.asp

**NoteMe** · Jul 15th, 2004, 09:00 PM

And in VS.NET 2003 it sucks...

**Ideas Man** · Jul 15th, 2004, 09:01 PM

How so? Works great for me.

**Maven** · Jul 16th, 2004, 03:05 AM

Originally posted by Ideas Man
Yeah, i didn't expect anyone to know what they were, our department of education feels it's necessary to teach us topics that are long since dead and aren't used at all in modern day programming. For people who don't know, they are what the tooltips in the VS IDE show to instruct you how to do a command i.e. Messagebox.Show. That's the modern form of the 3 examples i gave.

One word for ya my man (ok maybe an abbrevation): UML

**NoteMe** · Jul 16th, 2004, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by Ideas Man
How so? Works great for me.

SO are you using a lot of extern libraries and COM wrappers in VS.NET 2003?

**NoteMe** · Jul 16th, 2004, 05:45 AM

Originally posted by Maven
One word for ya my man (ok maybe an abbrevation): UML

I didn't get that...what does that have to do with those rail road tracks? And UML is not outdated. It's the OOP way of thinking. We had UP (Unified Processes) this spring, got a B..

...but at least it thought me some stuff that is probably usefull, but incredible boring...

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