What the hell? THREE minute silence?

**wossname** · Mar 15th, 2004, 06:49 AM

It appears that the all powerful leaders of the UN deemed it fair to hold a 3 minute silence at 11:00 this morning to pay respects to the awful Madrid disaster.

Mathematically speaking, why does Europe think several dozen of its citizens (I'm not sure of the exact number) warrant a longer silence than the 2 minutes that the World Trade Centre where thousands of people died.

This is obviously a political statement, where did they get 3 minutes from otherwise? I don't mean to be insensitive to those who were callously murdered in Spain, they certainly deserve 3 minutes of anyones time, but it sems to me like they (the politicians) just want to get one over on the rest of the world.

Silences like these are just rewarding the terrorists, and gives them a reason to aim for lerger scale targets in the future. There is no excuse for competing like this. 2 minutes is fine.

Imagine Osama talking to his chums around a horse-turd fire...
"Hmm how many minutes should we go for next time guys?"

I find it disgusting, personally. And its not even as if they bothered to tell anyone it was going to be 3 minutes anyway.

Badly thought out, irresponsible and pointless - standard European policy then!

**dis1411** · Mar 15th, 2004, 06:54 AM

im not sure they did it to 1 up us, but i definitely think it could be viewed as a how many minutes can we cause challenge

**davebat** · Mar 15th, 2004, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by dis1411
im not sure they did it to 1 up us, but i definitely think it could be viewed as a how many minutes can we cause challenge

I think terrorists may be a bit more calculating in their actions than that.

The Socialist Party won a shock poll victory after voters appeared to turn on the government over its handling of the Madrid bombings.

This in turn lead to:

Socialist Party prime minister-elect has declared his intention to pull Spanish troops out of Iraq.
Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero said: "The war in Iraq was a disaster, the occupation of Iraq is a disaster."

there is a method to their madness

**BodwadUK** · Mar 15th, 2004, 09:03 AM

Lets face it, it worked like a dream for the Terrorists not that Spain is really at fault as they have a responsibility to their people.

Standard is 2 mins lets bloody keep it two mins and remove the bloody stupid political element that seems to arise in everthing these days no matter how sick

**plenderj** · Mar 15th, 2004, 09:22 AM

It was the Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern that suggested the 3 minutes. I don't think he put a lot of thought into it - it was more off the top of the top of his head

**davebat** · Mar 15th, 2004, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by plenderj
It was the Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern that suggested the 3 minutes. I don't think he put a lot of thought into it - it was more off the top of the top of his head

I agree, I dont think it was supposed to mean anything, other than a mark of respect.

**BodwadUK** · Mar 15th, 2004, 10:17 AM

Bloody Irish

**Memnoch1207** · Mar 15th, 2004, 10:24 AM

Socialist Party prime minister-elect has declared his intention to pull Spanish troops out of Iraq.
Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero said: "The war in Iraq was a disaster, the occupation of Iraq is a disaster."

He does have a responsibility to the people of his country, but pulling out his troops and slandering the war in Iraq as a disaster, seems to me, to be some feeble attempt at appeasing the individuals or groups that did the bombing in the first place.

What country in their right mind would back down after a terroristic bombing?

He can say and do as he pleases, but I think he is setting a bad example for the rest of the world.

**plenderj** · Mar 15th, 2004, 10:27 AM

The previous Prime Minister went against the wishes of the population - so he's merely appeasing both himself and the general public.

**Wally Pipp** · Mar 15th, 2004, 11:01 AM

I second Bodwad's sentiment : bloody Oirish !

**Xcoder** · Mar 15th, 2004, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Memnoch1207
He does have a responsibility to the people of his country, but pulling out his troops and slandering the war in Iraq as a disaster, seems to me, to be some feeble attempt at appeasing the individuals or groups that did the bombing in the first place.

What country in their right mind would back down after a terroristic bombing?

He can say and do as he pleases, but I think he is setting a bad example for the rest of the world.

Pleeaaaseee...I know a couple of countries that should do the same

**Memnoch1207** · Mar 15th, 2004, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by Xcoder
Pleeaaaseee...I know a couple of countries that should do the same

Do what exactly???
Back down from terrorism?
Sit idly by while other countries are attacked and innocent people die?
There is a thing called compassion and a sense of humanity and any countries government that would allow such things to happen without taking action should seriously consider restructuring their government.

This isn't a country vs. country or religion vs. religion issue, this is about allowing innocent people to die without doing anything about it.

**Memnoch1207** · Mar 15th, 2004, 01:07 PM

I'll take it one step further.
This is about humans allowing other humans to be killed, without doing anything to stop it.

The main problem is most people, governments, etc.. only think in the area of their own little world. What doesn't affect them directly isn't a problem that needs to be addressed.

If americans are being killed, then it's the americans problem.
If it's muslims being killed, then it's the muslims problem.

That attitude is a bunch of ****. It's a problem with HUMANITY and it's willingness to sit by while others die.

**wossname** · Mar 15th, 2004, 01:34 PM

!!!SHOCK NEWS!!!

The Spanish are pulling their 1400 troops out of Iraq. Oh my GOD what are we going to do now? We're all DOOMED!

*(mutters lots of aggravated remarks under breath)*

**Gaffer** · Mar 16th, 2004, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by Memnoch1207
I'll take it one step further.
This is about humans allowing other humans to be killed, without doing anything to stop it.

The main problem is most people, governments, etc.. only think in the area of their own little world. What doesn't affect them directly isn't a problem that needs to be addressed.

If americans are being killed, then it's the americans problem.
If it's muslims being killed, then it's the muslims problem.

That attitude is a bunch of ****. It's a problem with HUMANITY and it's willingness to sit by while others die.

It's also the attitude of a nation of people that have been scared out of their wits due to years of facism under Franco, and terrorism under Basque Separaist groups over the last half century.
Just because they pull their troops out of Iraq does not mean they are capitulating - The US and UK solution, the war solution, is not the only solution, as Ghandi proved.

This "War on Terror" in it's present format isn't going particularly well, is it?

**Gaffer** · Mar 16th, 2004, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by wossname
!!!SHOCK NEWS!!!

The Spanish are pulling their 1400 troops out of Iraq. Oh my GOD what are we going to do now? We're all DOOMED!

*(mutters lots of aggravated remarks under breath)*

Proof that even sarcasm can be hoplessly unfunny...

**davebat** · Mar 16th, 2004, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by Memnoch1207

That attitude is a bunch of ****. It's a problem with HUMANITY and it's willingness to sit by while others die.

Everyone dies, why should we be held responsible for the deaths of people we have never met or never will meet?

**Wally Pipp** · Mar 16th, 2004, 07:59 AM

I see Gaffs woke up out of his hibernation !

**Gaffer** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by Wally Pipp
I see Gaffs woke up out of his hibernation !

I could smell right-wing nonsense...

**Wally Pipp** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:16 AM

smell? It's been stinking the place up for months now.

**RSINGH** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by Wally Pipp
I second Bodwad's sentiment : bloody Oirish !

Yup

**Wally Pipp** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:18 AM

Bluddy 'ell, they're coming out of the woodwork now

**Gaffer** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:19 AM

Fooking bejeesus oreiily - Ranj! Are you still at Monument?

**Wally Pipp** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:20 AM

He is still a monument by the looks of it.

**Gaffer** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by Wally Pipp
He is still a monument by the looks of it.

That almost sounded rude...

**RSINGH** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by Gaffer
Fooking bejeesus oreiily - Ranj! Are you still at Monument?

Still here for the mo'. Hows Cannon St?

Wally *SLAP*

**Gaffer** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:30 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by RSINGH
Still here for the mo'. Hows Cannon St?

How's Cannon street? Just round the corner from you squeezer

And don't slap Wally, his Botox will seep everywhere...

**Wally Pipp** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:31 AM

wotchit ducky, I'm doin' karataratate now !

**RSINGH** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by Wally Pipp
wotchit ducky, I'm doin' karataratate now !

That will be of no use against my super lethal special move.

*Grabs Wally's nut sack and twists*

**Wally Pipp** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:36 AM

*swish*
*thud thud thud thud ...*

Whoops, did my katana just behead you or is it just my imagination ?

**RSINGH** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:39 AM

Ah the sound of threads being sent on random tangents...feels good!

**Wally Pipp** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:42 AM

derailment in progress, please keep clear.

**RSINGH** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:43 AM

Does this site still censor arsenal and s****horpe.

**Wally Pipp** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:49 AM

tittywank !

**Gaffer** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:49 AM

Donald Rumsf**d

Hmmmmm....

**Wally Pipp** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:50 AM

that's the same and it is censored ?

**Gaffer** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by Wally Pipp
tittywank !

Excellent!!!

Fannyfart....

**Wally Pipp** · Mar 16th, 2004, 08:53 AM

****ybaws ... oh shït

**RSINGH** · Mar 16th, 2004, 09:00 AM

****Flaps - oops

**Gaffer** · Mar 16th, 2004, 09:02 AM

Do you find this thread makes more sense than the original post?

Mangravy

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