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Feb 27th, 2004, 01:22 PM
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Linux partition visibility from Windows?
Linux :
Mandrake 9. , on parition Linux Ex3(logical) , Linux Swap (logical)
Windows :
XP , on Partition NTFS , Primary .
bearing in mind , I can't see Linux partition from Windows .
based on this configuration , Can I see my windows files from Linux ? How ?
Thanks .
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Feb 27th, 2004, 01:42 PM
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I can see the primary partition of Windows (c . It's in mnt/nt . Now I can't find the other partition which my all stuff in . It's extended NTFS partition . Where is it ?
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Feb 27th, 2004, 02:10 PM
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There is no way that I know of. You can see the ntfs drive in Linux because Mandrake added read support for ntfs, but Microsoft hasnt done anything for reading ext2 or 3. Maybe someone has some 3rd party app to do it. But I have never heared of one.
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Feb 27th, 2004, 02:23 PM
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How can I see the NTFS D: partition from Linux . I can see the NTFS C: but not D: . Anything I have to do?
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Feb 27th, 2004, 02:27 PM
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you should be able to see it..I cant recall what it would be named though. If it was Fat it would be called /mnt/win_d if I recall, but not too sure what a 2nd ntfs drive would be named.
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Feb 27th, 2004, 02:33 PM
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but the confusing part is I can see the partition C: . Maybe it doesn't recognize extended NTFS partition ?
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Feb 27th, 2004, 02:42 PM
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I found it in Mandrake Control Center . It's colored green (swap partition ) with these details :
Mount point : swap
Device : hda7
Type : Linux Swap
and I have these options :
Resize
Format
Mount
Delete .
What option can I choose without affecting this partition in Windows ?
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Feb 27th, 2004, 02:49 PM
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Feb 27th, 2004, 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by Cander
Mount
Error says " swapon(hda7) faild : Invalid argument . What's next ?
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Feb 27th, 2004, 03:03 PM
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Not a clue.
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Feb 27th, 2004, 09:59 PM
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PowerPoster
Originally posted by Cander
Not a clue.
Thats his swap partition, why would he want to mount it again when it would have already been mounted on startup? :dunno:
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Feb 27th, 2004, 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Pirate
How can I see the NTFS D: partition from Linux . I can see the NTFS C: but not D: . Anything I have to do?
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Feb 27th, 2004, 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by Cander
There is no way that I know of. You can see the ntfs drive in Linux because Mandrake added read support for ntfs, but Microsoft hasnt done anything for reading ext2 or 3. Maybe someone has some 3rd party app to do it. But I have never heared of one.
You can use this nifty tool called explore2fs
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Feb 28th, 2004, 09:34 AM
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You need to mount the NTFS drive in Linux before you are able to read it.
try this:
mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb3 /mnt/winnt
***or a variation of***
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Feb 28th, 2004, 12:16 PM
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Mount option made my NTFS (D : partition ) inaccessbile from Windows . I had to delete the partition , and lost my data too .
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Feb 28th, 2004, 12:18 PM
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wow that sucks...That has never happened to me. I would have used the Partion Magic software packaged with Mandrake to try and unmount the drive and restore it.
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Feb 28th, 2004, 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by cid
wow that sucks...That has never happened to me. I would have used the Partion Magic software packaged with Mandrake to try and unmount the drive and restore it.
It does . I did it anyway and learnt a lesson . Linux wasn't happy with Windows partitions , I think .
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Feb 28th, 2004, 12:26 PM
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Im running linux with XP pro. Im running Knoppix-STD and windows xp pro. They seem to coincide in harmony. I know that Knoppix-STD is a bootable linux CD. But I love it so much I created 2 new partitionx (Swap and Native) and decided to have it on my HD as well. Well if you have to redo everything you might as well as get rid of Mandrake and pick up Knoppix. I have used Mandrake, Redhat, and Knoppix-STD. I have found Knoppix to reign supreme.
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Feb 28th, 2004, 12:34 PM
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Well , I've tried Knoppix 3.2 or so , and the good thing it doesn't need special partition , just boot off the cd and enjoy . But , it doesn't have lots of stuff like redhat or mandrake .
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Feb 28th, 2004, 12:37 PM
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Knoppix and Knoppix-STD are two different things. Just download Knoppix-STD and if you miss anything Im sure that you can just download it.
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Feb 28th, 2004, 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by cid
Knoppix and Knoppix-STD are two different things. Just download Knoppix-STD and if you miss anything Im sure that you can just download it.
Sounds cool . I didn't try Knoppix STD but do I have to do the partition mess . I don't want to lose my data again .
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Feb 28th, 2004, 12:50 PM
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If you use it to boot from CD then NO. But Knoppix-STD is meant to run off CD. If you want Knoppix-STD on your Harddrive than yes youll need two partitions Linux Swap And Linux Native.
Code:
Knoppix-STD is meant to be used off CD and you dont even have to have a HD to use it.
If you need help go here:
the Broken
Knoppix-STD homepage
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Feb 28th, 2004, 01:01 PM
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I'm downloading it now . Thanks .
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Mar 1st, 2004, 04:51 AM
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Monday Morning Lunatic
It will only have lost data on a partition if you told it to do something to the partition.
I've been using NTFS drives under Linux-based systems for a long while now, never had an issue. Just don't do anything stupid like mkswap on it ¬.¬
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Mar 1st, 2004, 05:44 AM
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Cander should be taken to court .
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Mar 1st, 2004, 06:06 AM
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Monday Morning Lunatic
The "problem" which isn't a problem, is that these systems *will* let you do silly things. Heh.
I refuse to tie my hands behind my back and hear somebody say "Bend Over, Boy, Because You Have It Coming To You".
-- Linus Torvalds
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Mar 1st, 2004, 09:55 AM
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Err, I dont see how moutning can mess up your drive. Either you did something else, or Mandrake screwed it up.
In a sense, Windows mounts your drives on its own during boot, which is really just mapping it to a drive letter or alias.
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Mar 1st, 2004, 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by Cander
Err, I dont see how moutning can mess up your drive. Either you did something else, or Mandrake screwed it up.
In a sense, Windows mounts your drives on its own during boot, which is really just mapping it to a drive letter or alias.
Well , mounting the drive might not cause a problem but the error occured is what screwed my partition I think .
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Mar 1st, 2004, 11:07 AM
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On second look, you said that mandrake says it was a Linux partition. Meaning it must have been screwed during installation and Mandrake turned it into a inux swap partition which killed it for Windows.
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Mar 1st, 2004, 11:13 AM
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Mar 1st, 2004, 11:17 AM
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No. Blame it on the OS. That is what you are suppose to do. Error. It was the OS. Caught the flu, blame it on the OS.
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Mar 7th, 2004, 03:16 PM
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Lively Member
I use explorer2fs.
This is a program that creates an Explorer like interface and allows you to view/monipulate your linux fs.
I think 2.6 kernel has ntfs read/write now by the way.
I am looking forward to this... I've been keeping my fs fat 32 since I dual boot.
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Mar 14th, 2004, 09:33 AM
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Monday Morning Lunatic
NTFS write support is still experimental, I wouldn't use it...
I refuse to tie my hands behind my back and hear somebody say "Bend Over, Boy, Because You Have It Coming To You".
-- Linus Torvalds
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Mar 15th, 2004, 01:26 AM
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Actually I would say that Knoppix 3.3 is better that STD because it has all of the same stuff + a whold load more...like open office and just abunch of stuff. I have it installed to my hdd and its great.
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Mar 15th, 2004, 05:16 AM
#35
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Originally posted by IntelSucks
Actually I would say that Knoppix 3.3 is better that STD because it has all of the same stuff + a whold load more...like open office and just abunch of stuff. I have it installed to my hdd and its great.
But , I've heard some problems about installing Knoppix on the HD , it's not recommended for some reasons .
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Mar 15th, 2004, 03:11 PM
#36
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Originally posted by Pirate
But , I've heard some problems about installing Knoppix on the HD , it's not recommended for some reasons .
I havent had any problems so fat and I have done a lot with it.
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