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Dec 22nd, 2003, 01:46 PM
#1
Hold on to users....
There is a thread going on in the chit chat part, where they are comparing visualbasicforum.com to this place....they have a lot of user now days, and they are getting bigger and bigger.
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...hreadid=272623
I was thinking about one thing, there is a lot of new persons here too, but it looks like they are not here for long. Maybe they are not getting the help they want. Maybe it is to big stream through with the "gurus" here. What about trying to hold on to the "gurus" that is all ready here, by giving some of them moderators jobs and "decorations", maybe they would stay longer and make a usefull bunch of "gurus". Then the new ones would try to be like them, and want to be a "guru" too, and will possible stribe to be one. And maybe stay her longer....
Does this sound like a good idea....or is this what you are trying to avoid (getting to many mods)...
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:00 PM
#2
I'll add what I mentioned in there:
Improve your search engine rank.
The only page with keywords is the index.php page:
<meta name="keywords" content="vbulletin,forum,bbs,discussion,jelsoft">
This isn't going to help one bit. Even Visual Basic isn't in there! A couple keywords I can suggest are:
Visual Basic
vb
vb6
mendhak
HTML
ASP
XHTML
XML
VB.NET
C
C++
C#
ASP.NET
ADO.NET
Chit chat
All the other pages don't have any keywords.
Visualbasicforum.com has a lot of users because that site appears on search engines at a higher rank, vbforums.com does not.
The more users we get, the more we retain.
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:03 PM
#3
Frenzied Member
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:09 PM
#4
Not a bad idea... JupiterMedia is earning revenue off vbforums, right? Spend some money on advertising on google. But no link exchanges! 
Also, I'm really surprised that the keywords were never taken care of...
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:13 PM
#5
I bet we are getting 10000 sticky ads at the top of every section if we use more money now...:d
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:21 PM
#6
I'm open to suggestions and ideas for making improvements to this forum. We've done a number of suggestions and have a few more in the works.
Additionally -- within reason -- I am open to having a few more moderators if there are qualified people who want to volunteer to be considered. This is something we can look at in January.
Brad
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:28 PM
#7
hmm... supermendhak for supermod 
I like the sound of it. 
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:28 PM
#8
I like that you are open minded about this. Even if you havn't said that anything is going to be changed.
So spread the word guys....everybody that think they are good enough for a section can probably apply to be a moderator....so maybe we are getting a couple of new ones to bother...
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:38 PM
#9
Originally posted by NoteMe
I like that you are open minded about this. Even if you havn't said that anything is going to be changed.
The next two weeks are 'holiday' for a lot of people. I've raised the question of new mods with the existing group of moderators as well; however, until the first week of January, it is hit and miss with a few people whose feedback I want from the forum. In summary, don't expect changes in the next two weeks. After that, then it will be easier to get the input of the entire mod team.
I've been open minded with most suggestions made in the forums. We've made a lot of changes too. Most are subtle and done without a lot of fan fair. When someone who has been a positive presence in the forum asks for something, the mods and I listen and take their suggestions/requests very seriously.
Brad
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:44 PM
#10
Originally posted by brad jones
When someone who has been a positive presence in the forum asks for something, the mods and I listen and take their suggestions/requests very seriously.
So I've noticed. 
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:45 PM
#11
Hehe...you in-directly (is that a word) said that I have a positive presence in the forum......I didn't think those changes that are represented in this thread would happen over night....neither all of them. But as long as you are discussing them with the rest of the team. I am fine. I am going for my one week holiday tomorrow too. Wow one week free this year. Hope it will be better next year.
See you next year.
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:50 PM
#12
The meta data/keywords is something that I'm surprised wasn't added by default by the Jupitermedia developers/sys admins. You'll see a change in that regard this week (made by me). That is a simple HTML thing to do.
Brad!
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:00 PM
#13
Some more keyword suggestions
vb source code
vb code
visual basic tutorial
vb tutorial
database
networking
com
com+
dll
OLE
API
DCOM
JET
DAO
active server pages
mendhak rules!
vb code library
vb help
php
It should help just a liiiitle bit, but every bit counts.
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:15 PM
#14
Some more...
programming
making games
graphics programming
directx
d3d
game engine
sdk
opengl
and maybe others
loop
array
list
hash
node
binary
hex
managed code
and tell us if you need more...
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:25 PM
#15
A smaller number of good keywords is better than a larger number of keywords. I've added some of the bigger hitters.
Brad!
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:28 PM
#16
Originally posted by mendhak
Some more keyword suggestions
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active server pages
mendhak rules!
vb code library
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And yes.... I did see that one.....
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:29 PM
#17
I hope you saw the other one he posted too....
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 04:32 PM
#18
Stuck in the 80s
I hardly post here anymore, but I'm sure if I was made moderator of the PHP forum I'd move in.
'Course, then I'd have to stop complaining so much.
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 04:36 PM
#19
Hehe...yeah you where one of the persons that I thought of when I wrote about more mods....I think you would have been perfect...
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 05:22 PM
#20
Frenzied Member
What about a poll to choose new mods...it will be a positive idea to let regular users choose who they want to be the new mods...
is vbforums a democracy ?
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 05:23 PM
#21
Frenzied Member
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 05:28 PM
#22
Originally posted by zuperman
What about a poll to choose new mods...it will be a positive idea to let regular users choose who they want to be the new mods...
is vbforums a democracy ?
One poll for each forum part that need moods??? Hmmm...first I thought it was a genious idea....but think about how embarresing it is too lose...
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 05:29 PM
#23
CornedBee is an other option for C++, but I guess he will never be allowed to mod anything here as long as he mods over at that other place too...
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 05:32 PM
#24
Frenzied Member
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 05:36 PM
#25
What do you meen by hmmm....it's the truth...if there will be a poll, that actually seems like a good idea. Then I will waith and see if anyone else are trying to mod the game section before I maybe will apply....
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Dec 22nd, 2003, 05:41 PM
#26
Frenzied Member
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Dec 23rd, 2003, 08:01 AM
#27
Originally posted by zuperman
is vbforums a democracy ?
To put it simply, no, it is not.
I would prefer that people PM me or one of the existing moderators to let us know that you are intersted in helping with moderation. This will be considered, but no promises are made. We will look at your involvement in the forum(s) you are interested in helping with in order to see how much you've been interacting as well as what tone you've been using. If there is a need for moderation in that forum(s), then the chances are good.
One side note - it is the holidays, so this is a topic to ponder, but it will be January before we have time to look at this seriously.
Brad
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Dec 23rd, 2003, 01:05 PM
#28
Frenzied Member
Originally posted by brad jones
To put it simply, no, it is not.
I would prefer that people PM me or one of the existing moderators to let us know that you are intersted in helping with moderation. This will be considered, but no promises are made. We will look at your involvement in the forum(s) you are interested in helping with in order to see how much you've been interacting as well as what tone you've been using. If there is a need for moderation in that forum(s), then the chances are good.
One side note - it is the holidays, so this is a topic to ponder, but it will be January before we have time to look at this seriously.
Brad
ok,ok,ok...yor the boss...
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Dec 25th, 2003, 09:45 AM
#29
Sleep mode
My votes :
VB.NET : Edneeis .
C#.NET :????????
ASP.NET :Cander?
C/C++ : CornedBee .
PHP : The Hobo .
Birthday section : mendhak
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Dec 25th, 2003, 09:51 AM
#30
VBForums is slow... sometimes I need to push Refresh several times until I get to a page. EVBF seems to load a lot faster. And yeah, I'm looking now if I'm gonna switch my main VB forum
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Dec 25th, 2003, 07:46 PM
#31
Originally posted by brad jones
I'm open to suggestions and ideas for making improvements to this forum. We've done a number of suggestions and have a few more in the works.
Additionally -- within reason -- I am open to having a few more moderators if there are qualified people who want to volunteer to be considered. This is something we can look at in January.
Brad
I'll be a mod
I amdin my own forums as well as a friends. Well I used to admin mine, right now it is closed while I re-design the site.
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Dec 25th, 2003, 08:05 PM
#32
Fanatic Member
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Dec 25th, 2003, 09:43 PM
#33
Addicted Member
If I may say so! I personally don’t like to ask to many questions here, I always feel that I’m to stupid to post here.
I think it would be a great plus to have some newbie sections in place, that way if all you good coders read a thread you would already know what you are dealing with. I guess that sometimes it is just hard to look back and think about the days when u was a beginner to.
I may be wrong, and I know that no one here owes anyone anything when it comes to asking a question, but lots of times I get the feeling that a certain level of experience is expected.
Take me for example, I know noting “and I know I don’t”, and that is the reason I somewhat feel out of place here.
Sorry for being off topic, just thought I’ll throw this into the mix.
Regards!
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Dec 26th, 2003, 09:33 AM
#34
Originally posted by Rally2000
If I may say so! I personally don’t like to ask to many questions here, I always feel that I’m to stupid to post here.
I think it would be a great plus to have some newbie sections in place, that way if all you good coders read a thread you would already know what you are dealing with. I guess that sometimes it is just hard to look back and think about the days when u was a beginner to.
I may be wrong, and I know that no one here owes anyone anything when it comes to asking a question, but lots of times I get the feeling that a certain level of experience is expected.
Take me for example, I know noting “and I know I don’t”, and that is the reason I somewhat feel out of place here.
Sorry for being off topic, just thought I’ll throw this into the mix.
Regards!
This forum is in place not to show-off knowledge, but to get questions answered. Your question can't be that stupid, because I've seen the stupidest of the stupidest.
So anytime, ask anything!
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Dec 26th, 2003, 12:03 PM
#35
Originally posted by VisionIT
It's not slow, infact it's far from it. I've only ever seen VBF fail once.. and that was a few weeks ago when the database fubar'd itself over... and even then it was fixed within a few hours. It may have loads of ad's... but VBF own's.
Try upgrading your connection... then moan if it doesn't work!
512k DSL should be fast enough...  Whatever the reason, VBForums is the slowest site I visit. Some years back I paid the visits here with a 14.4 and it was nearly as "fast" at the time
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Dec 26th, 2003, 12:08 PM
#36
Hyperactive Member
Works fine for me.....
The only problem is the frame on the top right of the browser window (which SOMETIMES show adds) displays the IE Action Cancelled page....
But other than that, it's fine
If my post has been helpful, then please rate it accordingly...
If it has solved your question(s), then don't forget to mark the thread as "[Resolved]"... thank you.
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Dec 26th, 2003, 12:31 PM
#37
Originally posted by Merri
Whatever the reason, VBForums is the slowest site I visit. Some years back I paid the visits here with a 14.4 and it was nearly as "fast" at the time
It must be you.
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Dec 26th, 2003, 12:49 PM
#38
Originally posted by Protocol
Works fine for me.....
The only problem is the frame on the top right of the browser window (which SOMETIMES show adds) displays the IE Action Cancelled page....
But other than that, it's fine
If you have Kazaalite installed (or somehow had your HOSTS file modified), that'll happen.
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Dec 26th, 2003, 04:05 PM
#39
Fanatic Member
Try flushing your DNS...
NTL's cache was slowing www.sainsburystoyou.co.uk a few months ago... and that caused hell with the network. I think NTL were sued actually as a result.
Couldn't happen to another company
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Dec 26th, 2003, 07:13 PM
#40
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