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Dec 4th, 2003, 12:26 AM
#1
Solvable?
(x+1)w+3 + (y+1)w+3 = (z+1)w+3
Find any values for w, x, y, and z for which the above equation is satisfied.
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Dec 4th, 2003, 12:23 PM
#2
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using the TI83 solver function:
if x=1, y=2, z=3 then w=-1.49
not sure how it does it though.
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Dec 4th, 2003, 11:51 PM
#3
And if I ask for natural numbers?
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Dec 5th, 2003, 02:19 AM
#4
And btw, that's not entirely accurate. If you take all of them on the LHS, you get a difference of -0.010023.
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Dec 5th, 2003, 08:43 AM
#5
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(x^3+3x^2+3x+1)(x+1)^w = -((y+1)^w*(y^3+3y^2+3y+1)-(z+1)^w*(z^3+3z^2+3z+1))
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Dec 5th, 2003, 08:49 AM
#6
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Originally posted by Acidic
using the TI83 solver function:
if x=1, y=2, z=3 then w=-1.49
not sure how it does it though.
When w = -1.49
x=(a+b)^.662252 - 1
y=(-b)^.662252 - 1
z=(a)^.662252 -1
a+b >= 0
a >= 0
b =< 0
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Dec 5th, 2003, 09:00 AM
#7
So Unbanned
w = -1
x = -(sqr(z^2+2*z-y*(y+2))+1) or
x = sqr(z^2+2z-y(y+2)) - 1
w <> 0
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Dec 10th, 2003, 12:16 AM
#8
JFYI, this equation is known as Fermat's Last Theorem.
The web page shows the original equation.
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Dec 10th, 2003, 12:26 AM
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Dec 10th, 2003, 03:08 AM
#10
Re: hehe
Originally posted by sql_lall
More interesting is more complex qs like this, for example:
a5+b5+c5=d5+e5
etc...
a,b,c,d,e = 0
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Dec 10th, 2003, 01:58 PM
#11
So Unbanned
Re: hehe
Originally posted by sql_lall
unfortunately, and very famously, there are no answers to your questions, as you ensure that all bases are >0 and all powers are >2.
More interesting is more complex qs like this, for example:
a5+b5+c5=d5+e5
etc...
a=(e^5+d^5-c^5-b^5)^(1/5)*(-(sqr(5)+1)/4 + sqr(-2*(sqr(5)-5))/4 * i)
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Dec 11th, 2003, 12:27 AM
#12
For the original:
x = y = z = w = infinity
Now tell me infinity is not a natural number
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Dec 11th, 2003, 04:05 AM
#13
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Dec 12th, 2003, 08:39 PM
#14
Fanatic Member
(x+1)^(w+3) + (y+1)^(w+3) = (z+1)^(w+3)
x=-1
y=-1
z=-1
w = whatever you want
this is the sort of problem you're almost better off deciding to simplify (x+1)^(w+3) to 0 in your head... but teachers don't like that very much
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Dec 18th, 2003, 02:00 PM
#15
Member
If the Natural number restriction is not there then the easiest solution is take w=-2
It will reduce the equation to x+y=z
And no need to tell much many different solutions U can have now.
Even if U take w=-3 or w=-1 there are many solution. As in the case of latter it is x^2 + y^2 = z^2
If the restriction is that w should be >= 0 makes the problem interesting. I will try 2 solve in next 2 days.
By the way I will say that I am enjoying the company of U all a lot.
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Dec 19th, 2003, 07:38 PM
#16
It's, unfortunately, been proven there is no natural number solution to that problem (and others like it). It is a cool equation, nonetheless.
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