The end of Computer Scientist?

[Maven]

http://www.againsttcpa.com/tcpa-faq-en.html

How could we survive that? LOL

[Ideas Man]

It's just typical that Microsoft bashes will turn any good technology into something evil. What this technology brings is great, it will eliminate spam and viruses and digitally encrypt everything. This is a great idea, but obviously there are Qs that need to be answered and not everybody will accept it with open arms. Most people who are against it are people who don't like Microsoft anyway. Or think that Microsoft will steal all their stuff.

[Maven]

We'll end up having to pay a stiff fee just to license our program to run on the windows operating system.

Bascially people will no longer control what is going on in thier computer, others will. Sure they may be able to stop virus files but the cost is we will no longer be able to save, copy, create, or program data.

[hellswraith]

Originally posted by Ideas Man
It's just typical that Microsoft bashes will turn any good technology into something evil. What this technology brings is great, it will eliminate spam and viruses and digitally encrypt everything. This is a great idea, but obviously there are Qs that need to be answered and not everybody will accept it with open arms. Most people who are against it are people who don't like Microsoft anyway. Or think that Microsoft will steal all their stuff.

No, I am for MS a lot of the time. But this...NO WAY. Sure, it has some good uses, but it gives big companies too much control of my computer. There is NO way someone should be able to remotely delete a file on my computer because they believe it is copyrighted. NOT GOOD.

I see this technology going bad quickly. What happens if a hacker gets into (insert big company here)'s network. They then, because they are authorized, decide to delete any and every file that the (inserted company) has a copyright to on everyones computer?

Or better yet, what if you quoted a copyrighted material piece in your 20 page college paper and the TC platform flags it as copyrighted material that you are not allowed to have on your computer, and deletes it? All your work is deleted, just because you didn't get permission yet to use the copyrighted material.

There is to much here. Some parts of it are good, but there is WAY to many questions that need answered. If anything was to cause me to switch to Mac or Linux, it would be this type of technology if it intruded my computer and deleted things. Hell, even if it took inventory of what I have, I would leave Windows.

No one can just come into my house to look for things that belong to them, why should they be able to look into my computer. We are innocent until proven guilty.

Damn, I started ranting....sorry.

[Maven]

Well if that bill gets passed then you will be required to use it. There will be no using mac or linux because they'll have to use this 2.

[hellswraith]

Ohh...I didn't know it was a law trying to be introduced, I thought it was just some technology that MS was producing. I need to read up on it some more.

Might be another source, looking now...
http://www.eff.org/IP/DRM/

[plenderj]

Originally posted by hellswraith
No one can just come into my house to look for things that belong to them, why should they be able to look into my computer. We are innocent until proven guilty.

I don't agree. If someone stole my television, and I knew it was in their house, I'd go straight into their house and take it back off them!

[Maven]

Originally posted by hellswraith
Ohh...I didn't know it was a law trying to be introduced, I thought it was just some technology that MS was producing. I need to read up on it some more.

Might be another source, looking now...
http://www.eff.org/IP/DRM/

Well it is a technology that is back by like 200+ companies, just about every name brand company has jumped on the TCPA bandwagon. But also there is a bill called CBDPTA (Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act) which will require everyone to use the TC. I really like how they named that bill.

[Maven]

The good thing about this bill is they'll be able to stop virus files, porn, warez, etc etc but the bad thing is they'll be able to do other things as well.

[Foxer]

Would you buy a new car with a CD player on the condition that twice a year some security company would rummage through your glove box and under your seat to see if illegal music was being played on your CD player?

I think not. You'd cross the road and buy a different model car or different model CD player. You would make the subconscious decision that theft is not your problem and you don't want to be intruded upon in the hunt for the pirates.

[dis1411]

when are they going to learn the more elaborate the scheme the harder it is on everyone but the pirates

[Ideas Man]

That is true, but remember, it's still in it's new technology stage, they will perfect it a lot more, obviously it won't pass if they have the right to look at your files, that's a big nono and I am against that, but flagging documents for copyrighted stuff it wouldn't work like that, it'd have something more to do with a company encoding a key into their prog or something and it just ceases to run on a computer if it's not original or something. Making programs, that would most probably work, may work a little like the Office 2003 self sign certificate scheme, it will work fine on your comp but something else may need to be done to allow it onto everybody elses... sounds quite annoying.

Anyway, they wouldn't be allowed to use it if it could see your data, that is illegal (at least in my country anyway) and under no circumstances would it be allowed here, they would have to fine tune it a fair bit before that happens.

[BodwadUK]

What worries me is this could isolate any new companies into the computing industry. The question is will the public accept it. The companies can try as hard as they like to force things in but its like the Banks in the UK. They wanted to charge large sums of money for people to use a competitors cash machine. There was an outcry and BAM they dropped the idea and tried to make themselves look really good out of it.

Time will tell

[Ideas Man]

You gotta remember, although Microsoft is pushing this, they aren't the only people, there are alot of key players that all need to work together for this to work properly, so alot of these issues would be addressed, it'd be interesting though how they do it, especially from the programming standpoint. It's pretty obvious that new programmers and companies aren't gonna wanna pay to share their program and i'm pretty sure Microsoft knows this, after all, they release the software to produce the programs in the first place. Their volume license customers won't take it lightly if they have to license their programs ontop of the development tools.

Time will tell...