Thanks.

I tried the <frame> thought, but it is almost like it needs to happen a step before that....

Looking at the link you sent (thanks!) looks like I need to do it before the <frameset> with a CSS.

Just looked at CSS quickly the other day, and shy'd away since I thought they werent supported in all browsers.....(any thoughts?)

I will look at the CSS idea more later tonite.

thanks for the suggestions