Dreamweaver?

**Alien_poo** · Nov 1st, 2003, 09:45 PM

can I make a website with dreamweaver having absolutely NO programming knowledge except visualbasic?

If I can't, do you know a good program that I could use?

**duc** · Nov 1st, 2003, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by Alien_poo
can I make a website with dreamweaver having absolutely NO programming knowledge except visualbasic?

If I can't, do you know a good program that I could use?

Of course you could. It wouldn't be the best site ever, but yes. There is a similarity in the way the code works. For example if you start typing <a it will have a dropdown menu with things that you might be trying to do. a good site to learn if you want is http://www.w3schools.com/

Also, there are pre programmed templates into Dreamweaver, or if worst comes to worst go to www.oswd.org for OPEN SOURCE sites. That's where I got mine

-duc

**Alien_poo** · Nov 1st, 2003, 09:55 PM

hehe, I don't feel like tring to learn, too much work. so I can just "draw" my website and put links on my buttons in dreamweaver without coding anything?

like pagebuilder ine geocities?

**duc** · Nov 1st, 2003, 11:20 PM

not really. use oswd.org and just move stuff around

**Kasracer** · Nov 1st, 2003, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by Alien_poo
hehe, I don't feel like tring to learn, too much work. so I can just "draw" my website and put links on my buttons in dreamweaver without coding anything?

like pagebuilder ine geocities?

yes

**Arc** · Nov 2nd, 2003, 02:08 AM

Yah, if you want the crappiest site ever, you can just use the menus to draw a couple tables and put a couple images and links in there and call it done.

HTML and Javascript aren't that hard to learn and you can make such a better site with a little effort.

**TheVader** · Nov 2nd, 2003, 06:56 AM

Yes, indeed you can make a site without knowledge of HTML, but since the Dreamweaver WYSIWYG editor makes some mistakes here and there you'd easily become frustrated because things don't seem to work without any reason... :P

And yeah, as a VB programmer, it won't take you more than a few hours to learn HTML...

**Alien_poo** · Nov 2nd, 2003, 02:12 PM

I dont want anything big... just check out www.radiohead.com, I think their website is really nice! I want something like that... something simple but nice

**Alien_poo** · Nov 2nd, 2003, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by TheVader
Yes, indeed you can make a site without knowledge of HTML, but since the Dreamweaver WYSIWYG editor makes some mistakes here and there you'd easily become frustrated because things don't seem to work without any reason... :P

And yeah, as a VB programmer, it won't take you more than a few hours to learn HTML...

seriously, to make somthing look like www.radiohead.com, how much time will it take me to learn html?

**duc** · Nov 2nd, 2003, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by Alien_poo
seriously, to make somthing look like www.radiohead.com, how much time will it take me to learn html?

30 mins if u want to actually learn it and understand it.

Or 30 seconds if you just copy n paste this into code for Dreamweaver and then just change the words.

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1">
<title>H A I L T O T H E T H I E F</title></head>
<body bgcolor="ffffff" text="ff0000" link="#000000" alink="#000000" vlink="#000000">

<TABLE WIDTH=100% HEIGHT=10%>
<TR><TD ALIGN=MIDDLE>
<TABLE WIDTH=355 HEIGHT=65>
<TR><TD ALIGN=middle>
<img src="images/contents/rad2.gif" width=355 border=1><br>
</TD></TR>
</TABLE>
</TD></TR>
</TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH=100% HEIGHT=10%>
<TR><TD ALIGN=MIDDLE>
<TABLE WIDTH=355 HEIGHT=100>
<TR><TD ALIGN=left><font face="arial"><font size=-1><font color="#ff0000">updated 9/6/03.</font><br>

hello and welcome to a new radiohead website.<br>

this is an appendix to HAIL TO THE THIEF.<br>

here you will find pictures, words, and a few other things we've been concocting.<br>

we have made some stuff in <a href="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" target="new">flash</a> too.<br>
because the record was made in unusually fast<br>
los angeles/oxford time we have made the website out of remaindered stock that we have discovered in dusty sketchbooks and unerased files on lonely computers.<br>

there is some much more fast-moving work on <a href="http://www.radiohead.tv" target="new">radiohead.tv</a>, which is launching as soon as we can get it together.<br>
<br>
<font size=-2>this website was made by <a href="http://www.slowlydownward.com" target="new">stanley</a>,
dr tchock, those tricksy <font color="#ff0000"><a href="http://www.vapourbrothers.com" target="new">vapourbrothers.</a><BR>
thanks also to <a href="http://www.waste.uk.com/" target="new">w.a.s.t.e.</a>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="opening.html"><img src="images/contents/comeon.gif"></a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</font></font></font></font>
<center>
<font face="arial" size=-2>we have your best interests at heart</font></CENTER>
</TD></TR>
</TABLE>
</TD></TR>
</TABLE>
</body>
</html>

**Alien_poo** · Nov 2nd, 2003, 05:49 PM

lol yeah, I thought of that... but I want something like it... not EXACTLY the same thing...

... anyway, isnt their code copyright or something? and if you say 30 min... well thats perfect, im going to try understanding it.. thx

**hellswraith** · Nov 2nd, 2003, 06:30 PM

www.htmlgoodies.com

Check out the primer section. Could get you started learning basic html quickly.

**duc** · Nov 3rd, 2003, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by Alien_poo
anyway, isnt their code copyright or something?

ya, but if you change the background color and teh position of things they wont know, nor would they care.

Plus what if you scripted the code yourself, they dont know that you didnt....unless they read this thread....DAMN!

-duc

**run_GMoney** · Nov 3rd, 2003, 10:22 PM

hellswraith beat me to it but http://www.htmlgoodies.com is where I learned 90% of my HTML. I still refer to it from time to time.

**Arc** · Nov 3rd, 2003, 10:38 PM

That radiohead site uses Flash as the intro, so you'll have to learn that if you want the same intro type deal.

But basically all radiohead is, is 2 frames with the top frame having a Jump Menu and the second fram displaying that particular page. Very simple site.

The downside about Frames is, if someone does a search on google for your site, they might find Nav.html(for instance) which is just the nav page in the top frame. This means they will not be seeing your site as you designed it. So think about that before using frames.

**Alien_poo** · Nov 4th, 2003, 04:23 PM

ok thx guys, I'm starting the tutorials..

**Acidic** · Nov 4th, 2003, 07:50 PM

The downside about Frames is, if someone does a search on google for your site, they might find Nav.html(for instance) which is just the nav page in the top frame.

This can easily be fixed with JavaScript though, no biggy.

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