Very urgent PHP code!!!

**raladin** · Oct 27th, 2003, 11:18 AM

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**mendhak** · Oct 27th, 2003, 11:30 AM

So you want to create a mini-spyware program.

Flash won't do it, PHP won't do it.

I don't think anybody's going to help you here. But if you're persistent, try making an ActiveX control.

**bekkel** · Oct 27th, 2003, 11:48 AM

not going to visit your site

**raladin** · Oct 27th, 2003, 03:44 PM

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**flame_211** · Oct 27th, 2003, 05:29 PM

i agree with bekkel, i dont think im gonna go to your site, BUT also,..... is USATION even a word?!!?!?!?

**vbNeo** · Oct 27th, 2003, 05:41 PM

Don't do anything behind the users back on a webpage - that's sick =P.

**The Hobo** · Oct 27th, 2003, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by raladin
hhhhhh..

First of all thank you very much for your replies..

then If I wanna make a trojan or a spyware.. I can ask this question in a hack forum.. and you know that hacking forums are so huge... but I wanna this code because I made an E-Learning System to put it in my site.. and I wanna put a security system.. so please tell me this code...

I'm sure that you are thinking that I'm a hacker.. but I hope you will help me after I told you about my usation of this script...

Best regards..

Bottom line: PHP is a serverside language. Everything happens on the server's side (get it?). The only thing it can send to the browser (ie, the user's computer) is script output, such as HTML.

It's not possible in PHP.

And what does hiding a file on a user's computer have to do with security? Is that like -- screw with my website and I'll activate the trojan I placed on your computer?

Usually security is defensive, not offensive.

**Chroder** · Oct 27th, 2003, 10:43 PM

Well, technically PHP can be client-side - with GTK

**kows** · Oct 28th, 2003, 12:36 AM

trust me, no one here thinks you're a hacker, because if you were, you'd be at least half knowledgable that a server side scripting language cannot do client side manipulation.. unless you count things like cookies.

**raladin** · Oct 28th, 2003, 06:35 AM

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**vbNeo** · Oct 28th, 2003, 08:00 AM

Make him download a proggie when he signs up for this elearning stuff - this program makes a key based on some machine info - and if the user wants to access your E-Learning stuff his key has to match his comp specifications

just a thought...

**crptcblade** · Oct 28th, 2003, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by raladin
Thank you very much for your trust..

I wanna do a very secure program.. that if any user wanted to log-in from another PC to his account.. he can't.. I mean I wanna him to use the E-Learning lessons on one PC only.. so when he login I will make flash serch for this file.. and check it in his computer.. if it is there.. he can login.. and if not.. he can't..

So I hope you will help me with HTML codes or any language can do the same work.. please trust me..

Best regards..

What the hell is the point of doing something on the internet if it can only be done from one computer?

**vbNeo** · Oct 28th, 2003, 08:19 AM

Making an application would actually be 10x smarter faster and more secure

**raladin** · Oct 28th, 2003, 08:32 AM

Inva

**vbNeo** · Oct 28th, 2003, 08:39 AM

NOt right now - cause i'm at school, but i'll fix something together tonight for ya.

**BodwadUK** · Oct 28th, 2003, 09:05 AM

use a internet explorer browser control addin in a VB app.

They must use the application to browse to your site. Even better connect on a different web port that is hard coded into your application.

If you know what i mean

**vbNeo** · Oct 28th, 2003, 09:12 AM

And what if they use MoZilla (as I do) ?

**The Hobo** · Oct 28th, 2003, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by vbNeo
And what if they use MoZilla (as I do) ?

Why would it matter?

They couldn't use Mozilla or IE to view it...they'd have to use the application you provide them with (which also comes with the WB control).

**The Hobo** · Oct 28th, 2003, 10:13 AM

Of course, what if the person isn't on Windows?

**vbNeo** · Oct 28th, 2003, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by The Hobo
Why would it matter?

They couldn't use Mozilla or IE to view it...they'd have to use the application you provide them with (which also comes with the WB control).

DO'H I read the thread wrong - I thought he ment a plugin for IE.

**vbNeo** · Oct 28th, 2003, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by The Hobo
Of course, what if the person isn't on Windows?

Yes - That's quite a big problem! It actully dooms the whole app plan - unless you want to write a C++ browser, hehe.

**The Hobo** · Oct 28th, 2003, 04:04 PM

How about telling us why you NEED to limit the user to using his own PC? That would probably help us help you.

And what if the user gets a new PC? He's then screwed from using your service.

**vbNeo** · Oct 28th, 2003, 04:22 PM

I've been Instant Messenging with the guy - but he's asleep now, so i'll answer your Q.

He's trying to make some kind of pay-per-tutorial stuff - and in the city he live(Dubai) there are lots of training centres teaching people computer development(In this case, Flash). What he wants to prevent is that they buy ONE licence and use it for all their customers.

That's at least how I understood it - his English isn't perfect =).

Cheers!

**vbNeo** · Oct 28th, 2003, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by Spetnik
Try the Binary Compulsion Regulator. That should help.

**The Hobo** · Oct 28th, 2003, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by vbNeo
I've been Instant Messenging with the guy - but he's asleep now, so i'll answer your Q.

He's trying to make some kind of pay-per-tutorial stuff - and in the city he live(Dubai) there are lots of training centres teaching people computer development(In this case, Flash). What he wants to prevent is that they buy ONE licence and use it for all their customers.

That's at least how I understood it - his English isn't perfect =).

Cheers!

Still don't understand...that just confused the fuggle out of me.

**vbNeo** · Oct 28th, 2003, 05:15 PM

Argh - too tired to explain, must - sleep - can't - resist - bed - Good - - Night!

**BodwadUK** · Oct 29th, 2003, 03:09 AM

Well if they all run in windows then doing the browser would be best if not then you could have a login that actually only permits one connection per payed client. Thus using 3 machines would fail.

If you do make your own app but still want more security then create a HASP.

**vbNeo** · Oct 29th, 2003, 03:15 AM

So you mean like using a DB to measure who's online at what time - and see when they log out, on session exit ?

Cheers!

**BodwadUK** · Oct 29th, 2003, 03:20 AM

Yes. Hell you could make your own web server

Certainly if it is fixed HTML pages just pass to your application the files and then open them in a web browser object. Voooalllaaaa a secure server system with web data passing of files by your use only.

**vbNeo** · Oct 29th, 2003, 04:01 AM

Please keep in mind that i'm not the one trying to make this thing, hehe - I'm just helping the guy.

What he's trying to make is Flash tutorials - and since Flash is cross platform, his tutorials need to be as well - so that dooms the app idea.

The obvious solution is to do as you say - store logon info in a DB, but i'm sorta searching for an easier solution since it seems like i'm the one who's going to make this.

Cheers!

**CornedBee** · Oct 29th, 2003, 05:09 AM

Write the app in Java?
Question is how to embed Flash into it...

**CornedBee** · Oct 29th, 2003, 05:10 AM

Or write the app in XUL/CSS/JavaScript using the Mozilla Framework.

Voilá, cross-platform app with flash support and whatnot.

**vbNeo** · Oct 29th, 2003, 05:32 AM

MoZilla framework? Doesn't take an genious to figure out that won't work in IE ^^.

**CornedBee** · Oct 29th, 2003, 06:52 AM

So?

**john tindell** · Oct 29th, 2003, 07:58 AM

right i might has misunderstood something here, but he wants his info on a webserver and only one person per license can read the info at one time, but whats going to stop them from downloading the webpages and posting them somewhere else?

**vbNeo** · Oct 29th, 2003, 08:01 AM

I think the pages are going to be made in Flash, and doesn't it have some security encryption stuff ?

**vbNeo** · Oct 29th, 2003, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by CornedBee
So?

Since the bigger part of the worlds internet users are on IE(Not me though) it would be silly to make it MoZilla only =P

**techgnome** · Oct 29th, 2003, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by vbNeo
Since the bigger part of the worlds internet users are on IE(Not me though) it would be silly to make it MoZilla only =P

Not really.... you would include the GRE (Geko Runtime Engine) -- it's no different than including the VBRuntimes when creating an install for a VB app.
It's using XUL/JavaScript/GRE doesn't make it unusable in IE, infact, IE becomes irellevant.

TG

**vbNeo** · Oct 29th, 2003, 10:44 AM

Where can I find some info on this thing then ?

**raladin** · Oct 29th, 2003, 10:57 AM

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