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Sep 11th, 2003, 06:08 AM
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Thread Starter
Member
about asking questions to professinol programmers
i have tons of questions my main question is:
since microsoft devolped windows and internet explore, why dont they block programs from doing stuff like deleteing you whole hd or crashing your computer. why dont they block unvalid entry from someone thats not valid to access your computer or send deltree/del/kill commands to it even if there connected?
i do know they try hard to block most or even almost all of this. i myself know if a user downloads a unknown program that might be a computer crasher and they run it there computer crashes, why do they enjoy see or knowing someone else is going thur a struggle trying to save it and if they fail the attack wins. there should be a way to log everything and submit it to a database.
might be invasion of privacy only if they get information like there birthday. what i mean is for every file deleted or every time a user downloads a file the data inside the file will submited to the database. anyone else have questions like this? i would like to see anyother questions or comments pertaing to this post.
-aymod/raymond
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Sep 11th, 2003, 03:07 PM
#2
95% of retards *cough* I mean people use IE even though it's useless, so there is no incentive for them to improve it.
when Opera or Mozilla start taking a chunk out of that percentage then they might fix things.
As for a DB for every file downloaded thats just not feasible.
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Sep 11th, 2003, 03:29 PM
#3
Windows started when there was no internet. So they were not concerned with people sending commands to your computer and all that. So they took a no security needed approach. As they went on and the internet got big, they had to bolt on security. But also at the same time, they were making everything work together and communicate which each other on the OS to make it easier for developers. All this combined just makes Windows very vulnerable.
Microsoft continues to bolt on security, but they are fighting an up hill battle.
"95% of retards *cough* I mean people use IE even though it's useless, "
Up to IE 5, IE was great for developers. Since then, it has gone stale with no new support for current standards. Mozilla is the browser of choice now that developers should focus on in my opinion.
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Sep 11th, 2003, 04:47 PM
#4
PowerPoster
Why would developers focus on a browser that %5 of people use? Like it or not IE is king and that is what web developers develop for and with.
And to the original poster of this thread....learn to spell dude. My 4th grade child can write better than that.
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Sep 12th, 2003, 06:26 AM
#5
Addicted Member
I use Mozilla and I like it very much, but there are many sites which simply don't work with it, and for those I have to use IE. I'm in this routine now, of whenever a web-site doesn't work correctly, I copy and past the url into IE. Its a pain in the arse, and I'm concidering just not using Mozilla.
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Sep 12th, 2003, 08:44 AM
#6
Originally posted by Arc
Why would developers focus on a browser that %5 of people use? Like it or not IE is king and that is what web developers develop for and with.
And to the original poster of this thread....learn to spell dude. My 4th grade child can write better than that.
Quite frankly, any developer worth his weight is going to go with the tools of the future. Mozilla is offering better support for new web standards than IE is. I can't sit back and wait for Microsoft to catch back up with IE.
IE is crap now. Sorry, but it is the truth.
I want complete XML, XSL, CSS, XForms, XHTML, etc support. Mozilla is going to do this for me.
Facts are MS's XML technology support as whole is stuck in an old outdated XML specification. They dont even support XLink.
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Sep 12th, 2003, 09:02 AM
#7
Originally posted by Cander
Quite frankly, any developer worth his weight is going to go with the tools of the future. Mozilla is offering better support for new web standards than IE is. I can't sit back and wait for Microsoft to catch back up with IE.
IE is crap now. Sorry, but it is the truth.
I want complete XML, XSL, CSS, XForms, XHTML, etc support. Mozilla is going to do this for me.
Facts are MS's XML technology support as whole is stuck in an old outdated XML specification. They dont even support XLink.
And if you really want to hear something crazy, ask MS when they will FULLY support CSS2.... already Mozilla is moving there.... having already conquered CSS1.... oh, wait, I should rephrase that first question... ask MS when IE will PROPERLY support CSS1!!! They don't even do that now.... they kinda-sort of-but not really support CSS1... fact is, the engine behind IE is pure crap, and hasn't been updated in years. I use Mozi 99% of the time.... there's only two web pages that I visit that I use IE for.... and both are book marked....
Also, I'd like to see these figures spoken of... I'd bet Mozi has a bigger share than just 5%.... but then it depends if you are going to look browser to browser, or engine to engine which I think would be a fairer comparison....
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Sep 12th, 2003, 09:09 AM
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Frenzied Member
Browser Usage from 1998 to Q2 2003.
Here's another I just found.
Month - April 2003
IE 6 - 64.5%
IE 5 - 23.5%
IE 4 - 1.2%
AOL - 4.4%
Opera 7 - 1.2%
NN 4 - 1.0%
Mozilla - 4.4%
Last edited by Memnoch1207; Sep 12th, 2003 at 09:24 AM.
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Sep 12th, 2003, 09:12 AM
#9
Actually that 5% is probably in reality too much. I am thinkng maybe 2 or 3%. But that number is growing.
And BTW, want to know why you cant view some sites in Mozilla? Because of developers that use sloppy HTML, out of date standards, and other non standard ways of writing HTML code. IE isnt very strict, so coders continue to write websites that flat out are written very sloppy, but since it looks ok in IE, they leave it that way. That is unacceptable to me. IE should be cleaned up and stop allowing crappy coding. Hopefully one day, we will weed out these crappy HTML coders so we can have strick adherence to XHTML standads.
I seriously hope Microsoft gets on the ball, but until then, my recommendation for browser use is Mozilla.
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