Info on the Next Version of VS

[Edneeis]

I got this email about a VSLive that has a video demo of the next version of VB/VS.NET. It looks great and best of all Edit and Continue are coming back! Horray!

Here it is.

[Cander]

WOOHOO..XML Documentation too!

[cgj]

another version any language change?
is it 2004?

[Cander]

That exception helper was very cool too.

[Edneeis]

And it looks like they improved the Printing tools quite a bit too.

Yeah it looks like it comes out sometime in 2004, here is the roadmap:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...o/roadmap.aspx

[Cander]

Dont you just fear the future? With all the less coding stuff, you almost believe that one day we wont be needed anymore, because with the click of 1 button, you can a fully functional custom program..


I mean geez, you can a full database viewing app by a single drag and drop!

[DevGrp]

I was at the key note presentation when they showed the demo. A lot of things has changed. The datagrid has been replaced with the Gridview control in ASP.NET. I think its very cool. It adds automatica paging, sorting, editing, and deleting of data.
They have also add support for playing wave files.

[Edneeis]

You get to go to all the cool events huh DevGrp? My company is cheap and I'm lucky if I get to leave the office.

[DevGrp]

Originally posted by Edneeis
You get to go to all the cool events huh DevGrp? My company is cheap and I'm lucky if I get to leave the office.

Well I try, especially the free ones. The couple of days I went to VSLive was courtesy of the NYC .NET user group, so that was cool. I did'nt have to pay so that was cool. They had a great presentation from the Office team. Even eBay had a great presenation. They have a webservice exposed similar to what amazon did which is very cool.
I got a couple a prizes one of which is half off the next VSLive good until 2004, and some t-shirts. Midnight madness was'nt what I expected, but aleast they had free beer .

[Pirate]

VS6 , then VS.NET (ok we need this change ) , then VS.NET 2003 , then Whidbey (2004) , then Orcas (2005) , then 2006 , then 2007 , then 2008 , then 2009 , then what the f uck is next ??? God damn it . We'll be confused with these new versions , there will be many groups , some will be programming in VB6 , some in VS.NET 2002 , etc . We won't be needed in someday .What the hell ! I'd rather prefer to stick to VS.NET 2003 for at least 3 or 4 years and that's it .Think about changing your code and project . I mean , you convert your projs every year and keep you busy learning some new fuc king new features . aah , I hate this .

[DevGrp]

Lol, well from what I've heard, MS wants to release a new version every year.

[PeteD]

There is a big jump between vb6 and .net, but there are no majar differences between the .net versions. The only noticable difference between the .net versionns, is that the performance of the IDE has improved (still slow though). The different .net versions have been like service packs really, except that you had to completely uninstall and then re-install

I would love to have edit and continue back though, cos it takes so long to compile a big solution.

[<ABX]

Originally posted by Pirate
VS6 , then VS.NET (ok we need this change ) , then VS.NET 2003 , then Whidbey (2004) , then Orcas (2005) , then 2006 , then 2007 , then 2008 , then 2009 , then what the f uck is next ??? God damn it . We'll be confused with these new versions , there will be many groups , some will be programming in VB6 , some in VS.NET 2002 , etc . We won't be needed in someday .What the hell ! I'd rather prefer to stick to VS.NET 2003 for at least 3 or 4 years and that's it .Think about changing your code and project . I mean , you convert your projs every year and keep you busy learning some new fuc king new features . aah , I hate this .

ya, not to mention the cost IE: The New Version (although m$ lets you upgrade from 02 to 03 for $29usd), and confusion

well the most things change, the more things stay the same

[Kasracer]

Looks really cool but I don't like how they expect to change the languages, versions, features, IDE, ect... EACH YEAR! I think they should of held onto VS.NET for a couple more years, then with Lonhorn's release, bring out a new version.

BAH! So basicly the class I'm writting to make printing a billion times easier will be useless within several months

[DevGrp]

Originally posted by kasracer
Looks really cool but I don't like how they expect to change the languages, versions, features, IDE, ect... EACH YEAR! I think they should of held onto VS.NET for a couple more years, then with Lonhorn's release, bring out a new version.

BAH! So basicly the class I'm writting to make printing a billion times easier will be useless within several months

Not at all. The version thats getting release next year is to coincide with the release of SQL Server 'Yukon'. With the release of Yukon, we'll be able to build store procs directly in VS.NET with any .NET language.

[Edneeis]

I think its good that we will be getting new versions every year. I think it shows that they are helping us more. Before you'd have to wait a couple years for better tools but really most development cycles are longer than that. Now it would suck if the languages weren't compatible but since they are built on the same framework then that isn't the case. Its just that the development tools get improved more frequently. If they keep the $29 deal for each one that it isn't troublesome to upgrade, but also you can still use an older version with little effect.

[DevGrp]

Originally posted by Edneeis
I think its good that we will be getting new versions every year. I think it shows that they are helping us more. Before you'd have to wait a couple years for better tools but really most development cycles are longer than that. Now it would suck if the languages weren't compatible but since they are built on the same framework then that isn't the case. Its just that the development tools get improved more frequently. If they keep the $29 deal for each one that it isn't troublesome to upgrade, but also you can still use an older version with little effect.

Exactly. I just hope they keep the $29 upgrade price.

[Edneeis]

Although I meant most development cycles are shorter.

Yeah if we have to pay $1,000 every time that will be a bit costly.

[PeteD]

It is still fairly new, so there are still a few minor bugs being ironed out. They would be scaring less people if they called the new versions service packs. The more the better in my opinion.

[Radames]

Dont yall find it strange how all the new Microsoft products represent big and/or falic objects?