Advertisement threads? What's next ?

**klopeks** · May 31st, 2003, 04:42 PM

Banner AD'S SUCK ,and so do Dell computers!

**John McKernan** · May 31st, 2003, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Mushroom Realm
Hey DragonFly, GalahTech won't let me post anything. It says I don't have permission. What should I do?

Have you joined and logged in?

I don't see you on the member list (not as Mushroom Realm anyway).

**Jethro** · May 31st, 2003, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by Mushroom Realm
Hey DragonFly, GalahTech won't let me post anything. It says I don't have permission. What should I do?

You were "awaiting email activation" - fixed now

**rjlohan** · May 31st, 2003, 08:36 PM

Geez, didn't see this coming...

**duc** · May 31st, 2003, 09:25 PM

It's obvious that we have no more say. They like to let us think we do. And of course they get mods who "approve" of the Ads. The only 2 good mods left are plenderj and martin liss. This sux. The site was doing fine before. Are these bastards that cheap? If one man alone [karl] can handle this site without ads, you'd think they all could do it too. *******s. rott in hell. go ahead and ban me. This site is getting more annoying by the day but its the only place that has good help [no offense galah] so why dont we all move to galah and screw this place.

**rjlohan** · May 31st, 2003, 09:42 PM

Mate, all Galahtech needs to increase the level of support is people. Join up. Answer questions, and so too shall your own be answered.

Above all, we listen to the membership. Just have a look at the raft of initiatives we've put into place (some of which this place has subsequently copied, in an effort to pretend they're listening).

**plenderj** · Jun 1st, 2003, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by duc
It's obvious that we have no more say. They like to let us think we do. And of course they get mods who "approve" of the Ads. The only 2 good mods left are plenderj and martin liss. This sux. The site was doing fine before. Are these bastards that cheap? If one man alone [karl] can handle this site without ads, you'd think they all could do it too. *******s. rott in hell. go ahead and ban me. This site is getting more annoying by the day but its the only place that has good help [no offense galah] so why dont we all move to galah and screw this place.

Karl bought and sold this site to make a quick buck.
And all of the mods were opposed to the dell ads - none of us knew about it.

**MartinLiss** · Jun 1st, 2003, 04:43 PM

I din't like the ads, but I got used to them and I don't really "see" them any more. I didn't like the Dell "posts", but after all, once you know what they are, what's the big deal. It's not much different than having any other sticky at the top of a forum. I basically think that dell will find that they get little or no business from them and one day they will be gone. Until then I just plan on business as usual - giving and getting good answers here at VBF.

**Slaine** · Jun 1st, 2003, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by plenderj
Karl bought and sold this site to make a quick buck.
And all of the mods were opposed to the dell ads - none of us knew about it.

Did you edit your post yourself or was it edited for you - or even worse were you forced to edit it?

**The Hobo** · Jun 1st, 2003, 08:23 PM

http://www.vbforums.com/search.php?s...der=descending

Where I come from, we call that spam.

**plenderj** · Jun 2nd, 2003, 03:29 AM

Originally posted by Slaine
Did you edit your post yourself or was it edited for you - or even worse were you forced to edit it?

'eh

?

**Peter1** · Jun 2nd, 2003, 03:52 AM

How about you just create an Advertising Forum like right down at the bottom of the forum list. Then everyone who wants to advertise something can get their urges out of the way there.

Members could advertise their own products their as well.

Pete

**Hampster** · Jun 2nd, 2003, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by Muddy

I tried to click into that damned thing to report it ... (little did I know).

http://www.vbforums.com/search.php?s...earchid=370074
All of the spam...
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...hreadid=247428
General VB Thread

http://www.vbforums.com/report.php?s=&postid=1449614
Try that to report it

**Slaine** · Jun 2nd, 2003, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by plenderj
'eh ?

Originally you had type an extra bit about it not happening again in the future - I only know cause I was writing a response about it - but when I checked back it had gone

*Edit:

/me slaps head - I just found the original post I was thinking of in another thread D'oh - sorry Jamie - you have my permission to poke me in the eye.

**McGenius** · Jun 2nd, 2003, 08:47 AM

They deleted my entire thread which I titled "Nice and cozy GalahTech" ... and you wonder about editing.

This place is gone.

**msimmons** · Jun 2nd, 2003, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by plenderj
... a lot of members left the site here too.
Oh also because of Jesus4u's religious spamming and what not.

Personaly I loved J4U's posts and the "debates" that sprang up from them (untill they became elementary name calling games) but when he was banned was when I quit.

**plenderj** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by McGenius
They deleted my entire thread which I titled "Nice and cozy GalahTech" ... and you wonder about editing.

This place is gone.

I deleted your thread because it had nothing to do with forum feedback, and was simply advertising a rival forum.

**James Stanich** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by plenderj
I deleted your thread because it had nothing to do with forum feedback, and was simply advertising a rival forum.

The mods rule. Do something about the Dell thread now...

**plenderj** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by James Stanich
The mods rule. Do something about the Dell thread now...

I would, except it was authorized, so its a legitimate post.
But, what I would say, is that its not a banner or popup or anything intrusive.

There are sticky threads created all the time.
But because its an advert, there's now a big hulla-baloo about it

**phpman** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by plenderj
I deleted your thread because it had nothing to do with forum feedback, and was simply advertising a rival forum.

what does a popup ad selling a DELL have anything to do with VB? or in that case, anything in this forum.

**plenderj** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by phpman
what does a popup ad selling a DELL have anything to do with VB? or in that case, anything in this forum.

This forum is owned by Jupitermedia Corporation - and if they wish to use it as a tool for advertising, then it is their right to do so.

As such, ads have nothing to do with VB, but then again, think about Formula1 Racing Cards - what do they have to do with AMD or Cigarettes or any of the other products or brands that are plastered all over the cars.

Its just a way to advertise.

**VisionIT** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 09:00 AM

True...

But I think the driver would be pissed off if they put the DELL advert on his visor... or steering wheel!!!!

That's whats happened here... banner ad's are fine, as 90% of sites have them... but posting a thread dedicated to SPAM is just stupid and a very bad idea on JUPM's part.

I know you can't control it m8, but you have to agree, it's pretty damn feckin' annoying!

**plenderj** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 09:06 AM

Well actually the adverts in F1 are all over the car, the driver's overalls, and sometimes on the helmets aswell

Anyway yes I do agree I thought it was annoying - but its not actually in your face at all.
Its quite discreet if you ask me...

**McGenius** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by plenderj
I deleted your thread because it had nothing to do with forum feedback, and was simply advertising a rival forum.

So ? Are you afraid of competition ??? You better be, because this place begin to stink big time. What may happen in the nearest future is that the "core team" will leave to some place else and you will have hundreds of newbies asking each other questions that non of them knows the answers yet. And eventually they all will say: we cann't get decent answer, so we outta here.

**McGenius** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by plenderj
I would, except it was authorized, so its a legitimate post.
But, what I would say, is that its not a banner or popup or anything intrusive.

There are sticky threads created all the time.
But because its an advert, there's now a big hulla-baloo about it

No, it's not big hulla-baloo but BIG INSULT for all members.

**plenderj** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by McGenius
So ? Are you afraid of competition ??? You better be, because this place begin to stink big time. What may happen in the nearest future is that the "core team" will leave to some place else and you will have hundreds of newbies asking each other questions that non of them knows the answers yet. And eventually they all will say: we cann't get decent answer, so we outta here.

The "core team" to which you refer already left when Karl Moore bought the site. We're coping just fine.

**plenderj** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by McGenius
No, it's not big hulla-baloo but BIG INSULT for all members.

How exactly is this an insult ?
A company that owns a website, is using that website to make money.
Membership to this forum is a privilege - not a right.

**crptcblade** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by McGenius
but BIG INSULT for all members.

If you truly believe that, then you really need to get out more. Its just a forum, after all.

As for the adverts, they are annoying, but far less than popups or that crap that floats around the screen on some other sites.

**MartinLiss** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 11:31 AM

McGenius: As you probably know, I didn't like the idea of the Ad posts either, but once I realized that they are here to stay I knew I had two choices: I could rant and rave pointlessly and make myself unhappy in the process or I could leave. You also of course have those same two choices and while I would not like to see you leave, if it would make you happier I think you should.

**McGenius** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by plenderj
How exactly is this an insult ?
A company that owns a website, is using that website to make money.
Membership to this forum is a privilege - not a right.

So, you can keep that privilege as I am saying GOODBUY.

**McGenius** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by plenderj
The "core team" to which you refer already left when Karl Moore bought the site. We're coping just fine.

And those that are still here are looking at the door as we convers.

**MartinLiss** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by McGenius
So, you can keep that privilege as I am saying GOODBUY.

Was that intentional???

**McGenius** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 12:13 PM

He, he, he ... ;-))
Of course not: Goodbye

**James Stanich** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by plenderj
I would, except it was authorized, so its a legitimate post.
But, what I would say, is that its not a banner or popup or anything intrusive.

There are sticky threads created all the time.
But because its an advert, there's now a big hulla-baloo about it

Because we can't advertise. WE, the forum mebers keep this place going, yet we can't advertise. Guess if we pay a fee....

I mentined awhile back I would pay a reg fee to keep this place strictly VB, no outside ads. But nope, you guys decided to move to the BIG PLAYERS and screw the loyal crew who has been with this forum for years...

Sad days indeed...

**James Stanich** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:21 PM

Free Copy of Queue -- Your New Developer Magazine!

Remember when stickies were about a specific forum topic ? The good ole days....

**riis** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by plenderj
Membership to this forum is a privilege - not a right.

It indeed is... BUT, it is also a privilege to this forum that many professionals are spending time with it, helping others with less knowledge. Or asking for help themselves. The forum exists by the activity of its members. Without members (or if you scare them all away), then this forum will be dead...
Just my two cents...

**duc** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by riis
It indeed is... BUT, it is also a privilege to this forum that many professionals are spending time with it, helping others with less knowledge. Or asking for help themselves. The forum exists by the activity of its members. Without members (or if you scare them all away), then this forum will be dead...
Just my two cents...

I liked that

Eat that Jamie [

]

**Mushroom Realm** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 06:56 PM

Hey, I don't approve of the ad at all, but you don't need to target Jamie. He's just standing up for these forums, and having to do it alone because no one else will. Think about how much help people have gotten and will continue to get from this site. Even with that sticky there most people will still hang around. Hey maybe if the advertising guy sees this thread he'll delete it on his own.

**MartinLiss** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Mushroom Realm
He's just standing up for these forums, and having to do it alone because no one else will....

???

**duc** · Jun 3rd, 2003, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by plenderj
I deleted your thread because it had nothing to do with forum feedback, and was simply advertising a rival forum.

But they can spam them in the their signatures which show up wherever they post?? right...

Originally posted by Mushroom Realm
Hey maybe if the advertising guy sees this thread he'll delete it on his own.

fat chance

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