Whats everone think about a .NET Architecture and Design Forum

**Lethal** · Apr 19th, 2003, 03:20 PM

Everyday, I find myself having to make major architectual decisions that greatly impact my current project. I'm sure many of the software developers on this board run into the same situations. I would like to see an additional forum created related to '.NET Architecture and Design', not targed at a specific .NET language, but an umbrella for all .NET compliant languages. Does anyone else feel they would benefit from this forum? I know I would and I will pass the message on to the moderators.

Thanks
- MKP

**hellswraith** · Apr 19th, 2003, 03:46 PM

Sounds great to me. Are you talking about more of a design theory type questions? That is what I would like to see. Maybe have people also post generic base classes that we all can use to build upon. Not sure if that is what you meant though.

Also, since your here lethal, could you check out my latest post in the asp.net forums.

**Lethal** · Apr 19th, 2003, 03:49 PM

That's exactly what I mean. I have a generic data access layer component I would like to share with everyone.

Also, I'll cruise on over to the ASP.NET forum and take a look at your post.

**hellswraith** · Apr 19th, 2003, 04:03 PM

Ya, that was what I was thinking. I have a data access base class that I have been using, and just creating other data objects that inherit that base class. Saves a lot of work. There are a lot of other things like this that we could all come up with I am sure.

**Lethal** · Apr 19th, 2003, 04:12 PM

Yeah, all of my fellow co-workers are new to .NET, so I really can't brainstorm many architectual ideas with them yet. We are porting our existing code to .NET, which is a monster ERP system.

**hellswraith** · Apr 20th, 2003, 08:15 PM

Has anyone gotten back about this yet? I can't believe that we are the only two that would think this would be a great idea.

**Lethal** · Apr 20th, 2003, 08:28 PM

Yeah, really surprises me.

**Pirate** · Apr 20th, 2003, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by hellswraith
Has anyone gotten back about this yet? I can't believe that we are the only two that would think this would be a great idea.

Hmm , can you talk in more newbie way so everyone here(including myself

) can understand what you're going through .lol

**DevGrp** · Apr 20th, 2003, 08:44 PM

Did anyone of you guys talk to Serge? He would be the one who could add that forum. Anything .NET, I down for.

**Edneeis** · Apr 20th, 2003, 09:03 PM

I think it is a good idea as well.

**Pirate** · Apr 20th, 2003, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by Edneeis
I think it is a good idea as well.

What on earth are you talking about ?

**DevGrp** · Apr 20th, 2003, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by Pirate
What on earth are you talking about ?

lol read the first post.

**hellswraith** · Apr 20th, 2003, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Pirate
Hmm , can you talk in more newbie way so everyone here(including myself) can understand what you're going through .lol

Lethal asked this:

I would like to see an additional forum created related to '.NET Architecture and Design', not targed at a specific .NET language, but an umbrella for all .NET compliant languages.

Basically, add a forum here that we can talk about the theory of application development. We can ask design type questions, post commonly used base classes that we all can use and inherit from, and general knowledge about what we find as we build our applications with the .net languages and framework.

It will help us all overcome common roadblocks that we face when designing and building applications because someone else out there has probably faced the same problem before.

**Pirate** · Apr 20th, 2003, 09:34 PM

Wonderful , Yes we really need a .NET Community rather than this forum .

**PT Exorcist** · Apr 20th, 2003, 10:49 PM

it would be good..i think

**Edneeis** · Apr 21st, 2003, 12:12 AM

Even if it wasn't specific to .NET although since .NET is more OOP it does seem to be a bigger issue. Maybe if we even had a sticky thread on the topic to post to. That wouldn't be as cool but it may be easier and would be better than nothing.

**hellswraith** · Apr 21st, 2003, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by Edneeis
Even if it wasn't specific to .NET although since .NET is more OOP it does seem to be a bigger issue. Maybe if we even had a sticky thread on the topic to post to. That wouldn't be as cool but it may be easier and would be better than nothing.

That would be a start, but it would be cool to have a discussion about different issues that we are faced with. A sticky thread would start to be to large to handle if we did that. I think in this case, a seperate forum would work best.

**Lethal** · Apr 21st, 2003, 07:25 AM

Good, I'm glad we got some more responses. I'll contact Serge and see what he can do.

Thanks All

**VBCrazyCoder** · Apr 21st, 2003, 07:31 AM

Count me in - I always have design proposals, but not many people to bounce the ideas off of.

**Lethal** · Apr 21st, 2003, 08:31 AM

This is exactly what I am talking about. I knew me and Hellswraith were not the only two.

**PT Exorcist** · Apr 21st, 2003, 08:38 AM

definetely it would be cool...now i am getting better but until now i had programs that i had to restart just because i've found myself a better way of doing it ..is that what the forum would be about wouldnt it?

**Lethal** · Apr 21st, 2003, 08:57 AM

Yes. Discussions regarding N-Tier architecture, 3 tier, 2 tier, etc..
As well as what Hellswraith pointed out, we can share some of our base classes so we dont all re-invent the wheel.

**PT Exorcist** · Apr 21st, 2003, 09:54 AM

what do u mean by n-tier, 2tier, 3tier? lol

**VBCrazyCoder** · Apr 21st, 2003, 09:56 AM

I'm sure it would also include to some degree design patterns, and when and where to use them - and when NOT to use them!

**Edneeis** · Apr 21st, 2003, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by PT Exorcist
what do u mean by n-tier, 2tier, 3tier? lol

He means programming in layers. Tiers=Layers basically. Having your business logic in one spot, your data in another or whatever it is you need to get the job done in a good manner.

**Pirate** · Apr 21st, 2003, 11:00 AM

Lethal , since you are the first who started this idea on this forum ,

Can you list down the main guidelines of this thread , so others can follow and find it easy to participate or throw their ideas .

Thank you !

**Lethal** · Apr 21st, 2003, 11:17 AM

Here is a great link that contains many articles (and code examples) explaining theory and best practices when designing and implementing software solutions.

http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/architecture/default.aspx

Finally, Microsoft gave us a true OO language that most people can understand. Unfortunately, many people are continuing to build there apps in the legacy, monolithic way.

.NET == Building Reusable Components

That's what the new forum will bring to the table. We can discuss anything and everything from building components to deploying N-Tier web applications. Knowing the syntax is only half the battle. I guarantee this new forum will make each and every one of us a better programmer and software architect in the long run.

**PT Exorcist** · Apr 21st, 2003, 12:49 PM

did u already pmed serge?

**Lethal** · Apr 21st, 2003, 01:05 PM

Yes

**Serge** · Apr 21st, 2003, 10:03 PM

This question is being disscused among admins

**Slow_Learner** · Apr 21st, 2003, 10:41 PM

I'd like to see such a forum, to learn from. Wouldn't have much to say as I don't have any formal design training but I'd like to read it for sure.

**shutty** · Apr 22nd, 2003, 03:45 AM

A good place to start is by reading :

Design Patterns in VB.NET: Building Adaptable Applications from Wrox press.

This is a very readable introduction to the subject of Design Patterns and covers each of the tiers in some detail.

Another 'classic' book on the subject is:

Design Patterns, by Gamma, Helm, Johnson and Vlissides.

This book is the bible of design patterns but is alot more heavy going to read, but it serves as a good compliment to the VB.NET specific book.

Anyone know of any other good resources...

**hellswraith** · Apr 22nd, 2003, 03:40 PM

There is a new forum added now. That was pretty quick.

**Pirate** · Apr 24th, 2003, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by shutty
A good place to start is by reading :
Anyone know of any other good resources...

Have you visited the link posted by Lethal ?

Special thanks for Serge who helped establishing the new forum .

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