KFayal

I agree. Creation DOES imply a Creator... its just such a pity that NOTHING was ever created.

An ameoba will always be an ameoba.
Where did the ameoba begin?
A man will always be a man.
Where did man begin?
Actually an Ameoba was NOT always an ameoba, it was a proto-plasmic RNA molecule that before that was a protein string and before that was a collection of Hydrogen, Carbon, Oxygen and Nitrogen molecules.

A man was not ALWAYS a man... he too was the same proto-plasmic RNA molecule.

If you studied the origins of biology you would see how we actually came about, how all life came about and thus how a creator was NOT involved.

There is a reason why we are Carbon-Based, becaues Carbon is an element with the most amazing bonding properties which relate specifically to its place on the periodic table. This ability to bond in a multiple of ways under the right conditions lead to the combination of structured and inter-laced chains called RNA and protein and they built ontop of each other so the resulting molecule had properties of its own... Those built on others which built on others and over the span of several billion years they came to form us.

Now you may say that is amazing... I would say you obviously cannot grasp the concept of 10 billion years. Yes we are amazing, yes we are a marvelous construction and arrangement of atoms.... but that does NOT automatically imply a creator, it simply implies that our universe has form and structure which funny enough just happens to be an attribute of matter itself.

I can see how you would think as you do... but I see it as limited because you cannot get out of your head the word "create".

Do you think babies are actually "created"?

Harry
No you can't
Hehehe... your right. The way I worded that you are absolutely right.

I should have said "I can show you evidence that suggests to ME that God doesn't exist"

This is the closed universe theory, which is exactly that, a theory. I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm just not convinced it's right.
What then is the point of evidence to you that invalidates this theory and what is the evidence to you that validates a God created universe?