This is getting bad.

[Dillinger4]

With the soldier who tossed the grenade into the tent to the 12 captured soldiers who were executed to the British Royal Airforce Tornado that was shot down by friendly forces to the helicopter crash.

[dogsby]

This is war. Unfortunatly, things like that happen.

Dogsby

[Dillinger4]

Yes this is true.

[hellswraith]

Bad day indeed, wish no one had to die (either side).

Hope things get better.

[Arc]

so that's what? 30 Coalition forces dead in 4 days? And most of those were by pure accident and had nothing to do with the war? I'd say that's not bad at all.

Soldiers die during training all the time, it just never makes the news..this is no different, it's just head line news.

[run_GMoney]

While it may not have any affect over the general outcome of the war, I think it's a big deal when any coalition soldier dies.

[nishantp]

Past wars have probably been MUCH worse. This war is one of the best. The difference is that now we have embedded journalists with satellite uplinks, and lots of people with TV and Internet access. So we know about every small thing. There were many more cases of soldiers "going beserk" in Vietnam than there ever will be in this war. But people didnt know about it then.

[honeybee]

Originally posted by Arc
so that's what? 30 Coalition forces dead in 4 days? And most of those were by pure accident and had nothing to do with the war? I'd say that's not bad at all.

Soldiers die during training all the time, it just never makes the news..this is no different, it's just head line news.

Just make sure you lose fewer soldiers to such accidents than to the Iraqi forces.

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[BodwadUK]

Soldiers are worried and making mistakes. It is understandable, its just bad that deaths are being caused by this. Hopefully once they become more experianced they will begin to calm down a bit and the adrenaline will wear off a bit.


So far we have lost more soldiers in accidents than in the war itself.

We have caused much more disruption on the other side and soldiers who are giving up from Iraq are being treated very well. What more can we ask but for Iraqi soldiers to give up and therefore reduce the amount of guns pointing at our soldiers

30 deaths in 4 days sounds bad but it is in fact good. Remember more than half of them are accidents and this shows the skill or our armed forces in the combat area

[honeybee]

Originally posted by BodwadUK
Soldiers are worried and making mistakes. It is understandable, its just bad that deaths are being caused by this. Hopefully once they become more experianced they will begin to calm down a bit and the adrenaline will wear off a bit.

I agree. They need more practice

Originally posted by BodwadUK
30 deaths in 4 days sounds bad but it is in fact good. Remember more than half of them are accidents and this shows the skill or our armed forces in the combat area

Agreed again. Better skills, more accidents. Right on spot

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[Maven]

Originally posted by honeybee
I agree. They need more practice




Agreed again. Better skills, more accidents. Right on spot

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Oh well... name one other country in the world that could do it better...

[Sonikku`]

It's just gonna get worse, we've been (officialy) at war for what, 3 days.

[Nightwalker83]

Originally posted by Sonikku`
It's just gonna get worse, we've been (officialy) at war for what, 3 days.

I thought they said four days on the news.

[honeybee]

Originally posted by Maven
Oh well... name one other country in the world that could do it better...

I am agreeing with the statements in question.

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[honeybee]

Originally posted by Nightwalker83
I thought they said four days on the news.

Don't you know better than trust the news agencies? They are full of propaganda

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[Nightwalker83]

Originally posted by honeybee
I am agreeing with the statements in question.

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Why do you put a fullstop two lines after you finished a sentence?

[Nightwalker83]

Originally posted by honeybee
Don't you know better than trust the news agencies? They are full of propaganda

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I was watching Sky News.

[plenderj]

Originally posted by Maven
Oh well... name one other country in the world that could do it better...

Just because you have the biggest army doesn't mean the soldiers are any more proficient than other armies.
The Iraqi special republican guard are very good, as are the Israeli military - and probably the same too could be said for the fedayeen - if you can call them an army.

[BodwadUK]

Casualtys are something you are going to take in war, experiance is everthing and many of these advanced units have that experiance.

A lot more guns can OFTEN (not always) be a massive advantage over even the best soldiers. So the mass of troops is a big advantage.

Sounds to me like our troops are doing alot better than that of the current Iraqi troops in combat. Saying that though the Iraqi troops currently in conflict are often drafted against their will hence the large amount of soldiers surrendering

[plenderj]

Its only some of the drafted army that's surrendering.
The republican guard and special republican guard and the fedayeen won't.

[BodwadUK]

Thats what i said isnt it???

[honeybee]

Originally posted by BodwadUK
Thats what i said isnt it???

Yeah, but not all of it. You twisted that statement of yours to sound like most of the Iraqi military is surrendering

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[BodwadUK]

This is dam rare thing




























I am sorry for any missunderstanding

I feel sorry for people drafted against their will, they have no choice and i am very releived they are being treated well and are being allowed to surrender so easily

[plenderj]

Originally posted by BodwadUK
i am very releived they are being treated well and are being allowed to surrender so easily

*reminds me of picture of iraqi soldier holding white flag that got bombed*

[honeybee]

Originally posted by BodwadUK
I am sorry for any missunderstanding

I feel sorry for people drafted against their will, they have no choice and i am very releived they are being treated well and are being allowed to surrender so easily

Ah, now that statement seems correct

Mischief Managed!


Oh, I mean you are forgiven

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[honeybee]

Originally posted by plenderj
*reminds me of picture of iraqi soldier holding white flag that got bombed*

Honestly, Jamie, those troops can't make out whether the planes in the air are friends or foes, how do you expect them to interpret white flags?

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[simonm]

I think things are going to get much, much worse than they are now.

Iraq has learned it's lessons from the first war. They are going to embed their best troops in the towns and use gorilla tactics to cause as much trouble as possible for the coalition forces.

I wouldn't be suprised if there are hundreds (or even thousdands) of allied casualties by the end of this...

[honeybee]

Originally posted by simonm
Iraq has learned it's lessons from the first war. They are going to embed their best troops in the towns and use gorilla tactics to cause as much trouble as possible for the coalition forces.

Those inhuman Iraqis!! First the chemical weapons, and now they are using gorillas to fight the US army!!

Honestly, some people are really sick!



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[Maven]

Originally posted by simonm
I think things are going to get much, much worse than they are now.

Iraq has learned it's lessons from the first war. They are going to embed their best troops in the towns and use gorilla tactics to cause as much trouble as possible for the coalition forces.

I wouldn't be suprised if there are hundreds (or even thousdands) of allied casualties by the end of this...

Thier using civilians as human shields and that is going to slow us down for some time. The only way it would get bad for us is for them to do one of the two things:

1. Use checmial or biological weapons.
2. Try to draw our forces into an Urban enviroment.

[plenderj]

Originally posted by Maven
2. Try to draw our forces into an Urban enviroment.

Your forces are already in urban environment.

[run_GMoney]

Originally posted by plenderj
Your forces are already in urban environment.

In that Iraqi desert sort of way...

[BodwadUK]

It is what they were doing to the Gorrilas to piss them off before the fight started.

Good terror tactics if you scare people into covering their butts

[plenderj]

Originally posted by run_GMoney
In that Iraqi desert sort of way...

What ?

[run_GMoney]

It's a joke

[DeadEyes]

Nice to see the surgical, prescision attacks continuing, with missiles landing in Turkey and Iran.
I mean missing the target is one thing, but missing the entire country

[run_GMoney]

Yep, those were "misses." We were really "off" with those....whoops...can't forget the

[BodwadUK]

At least nobody was hurt as far as i know. They may have been diverted for some reason

[plenderj]

Originally posted by BodwadUK
They may have been diverted for some reason

Yeah, the missile operators got a conscience

[BodwadUK]

Lol

What a strange mind you have

[honeybee]

Originally posted by BodwadUK
At least nobody was hurt as far as i know. They may have been diverted for some reason

A missile/bomb hit a Syrian bus within Iraqi border, killing 5 and wounding 10.

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