thanks you guys, i will prob have more questions, but i just started vb class 4 weeks ago, and before that i had no expierience with that, i was dimming things before the teach told us about that, he asked me if i read the book, i said no, i went online and learned some vb script, this other kid in the class, he has chunky soup dandruff, really nasty ****, i just ate, so i wont talk about it, he is good, but he cant do **** on his comp cuz its 100 mghz, i have got to be teh most advanced kid in that class, now along with internet applications, i also "<i>own</i>" this class to, could you guys explain what each part of these codes do, or point me to a really good guide? this html is gonna be wicked sweet soon, im gonna convert all my buttons to graphical, using fireworks: coold 3d 1, and 3, and paint shop pro 7, all of which i downloaded for free: thanks warez, anyway, is there a way to put flash into a program, and just make the program a shell for flash?