Mozilla

**aafuss** · Feb 19th, 2003, 04:40 PM

Have youused any ver of Mozilla-and did you like it-I've used 12.2, and it's way better tan ie.

**Sastraxi** · Feb 19th, 2003, 05:31 PM

Yep, I use Phoenix 0.5 now (Moz. variant) with the occasional site visit in IE (it's popup blocker is indispensible).

**Rick Bull** · Feb 20th, 2003, 11:19 AM

I've been using Moz for quite a while now (and Opera before that). I'm using 1.2.1 at the moment as I find 1.3 beta very buggy. If Phoenix had a mail client I would possibly use that over Moz, but it's lacking some other features too.

**DeadEyes** · Feb 20th, 2003, 11:35 AM

I'm switched to Moz and haven't looked back.
I didn't like Opera at all. Used to use IE with Proxomitron.

**plenderj** · Feb 20th, 2003, 11:48 AM

I'm a happy IE user.

**JoshT** · Feb 20th, 2003, 11:56 AM

I use Phoenix 0.5, as its slightly faster than Mozilla, and I don't need Mail/Chat, etc. Opera 7.01 is also pretty good - it's the only browser I can get CSS landscape printing to work in.

IMHO, IE is an archaic browser - a Netscape clone bloated by proprietary add-ons.

BTW - does Opera 7.01 still supposed to display ads - I haven't seen one yet?

**siyan** · Feb 20th, 2003, 07:47 PM

heh...we had a discussion about the whole IE vs. Moz thing a while back at NXSupport.

IE all the way though. Tis faster and renders everything.

**DeadEyes** · Feb 21st, 2003, 04:20 AM

IE all the way though. Tis faster and renders everything.

Yes IE downloads pretty much anything whether you want it to or not

**plenderj** · Feb 21st, 2003, 04:22 AM

I thought IE was quite slow in comparison to other browsers?

**Rick Bull** · Feb 21st, 2003, 06:17 AM

Yes I find IE to be the slowest browser (to render at least) by quite a long way, with Opera being one of the fastest.

Originally posted by JoshT
BTW - does Opera 7.01 still supposed to display ads - I haven't seen one yet?

You get a couple of weeks add-free if you haven't had Opera installed before

**mendhak** · Feb 21st, 2003, 10:15 AM

IE loads faster than those other ones. And its plain and simple, not overloaded like that son of a ***** mother ****ing piece of **** Netscape Navigator.

But I found mozilla to be nice. Still won't beat IE though.

**JoshT** · Feb 21st, 2003, 11:09 AM

Phoenix or Mozilla with HTTP Pipelining enabled seem to render faster than IE to me. IE cheats at initial load up because it loads with Windows. And Mozilla/Opera render pages correctly - even the Mac version of IE has been better than the Windows version.

IE is also garbage security-wise. ActiveX is a fatally flawed architecture. Plugs-ins are still bad, but at least they need to be manually downloaded and run with their installer.

**Rick Bull** · Feb 21st, 2003, 02:16 PM

Also I would say that Opera is a fast to load as IE, without "cheating" by putting itself in memory at startup. And with Mozilla putting itself in memory at startup it's also just as fast.

**dolor** · Feb 21st, 2003, 07:26 PM

I find Opera to be the best browser I've ever used. Mozilla is okay, and I find that IE gives me headaches. I find that Opera loads fastest of all, is small, blocks all the ads on sites I've visited, and sooo sweet because of the mouse gestures. I find myself trying to use them when browsing through files on my computer and such.

So anyways, cheers to Opera.

**Rick Bull** · Feb 22nd, 2003, 01:56 PM

I do the mouse gestures sometimes too

Esp. in other browsers. There is a plug-in for Mozilla to get them too by the way.

**SteveCRM** · Feb 22nd, 2003, 10:56 PM

mozilla site sucks ass though, I can't even download the damn thing

**SteveCRM** · Feb 22nd, 2003, 10:58 PM

Reliability United States

n/a ftp.mozilla.org

**Gandalf_Grey_** · Feb 22nd, 2003, 11:55 PM

I am a mozilla fanatic

I have a copy of the source on my hard drive and compile it every few days through a CVS update (running linux) currently typing this on a nightly build of 2 days ago

**Sastraxi** · Feb 23rd, 2003, 12:33 AM

I did the same when I had Linux on my old computer. And tomorrow, when I have it on my new one.. I will still do that

... In fact I do that with a lot of progs.

**Rick Bull** · Feb 23rd, 2003, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by SteveCRM
mozilla site sucks ass though, I can't even download the damn thing

Really? I've found their site to be excellent, with usually high transfer rates.

**SteveCRM** · Feb 23rd, 2003, 10:02 AM

must have just been bad timing

**Gandalf_Grey_** · Feb 23rd, 2003, 02:09 PM

I am on dial up so I don't really notice it

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