Qbasic is cool, though. It was also one of the first programming languages that I learned and I think that it helped me make the jump to vb and c++. vb is easy, but i prefer c++ for some odd reason. I have qb 7.1, and its pretty fun. I just use it to toy around with. for any stronger apps, i try to use vb, and eventually I want to be a c++ xpert. You can make so much with it in my opinion.