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    Find the Radius (Yet another puzzle)



    The rectangle in the corner is 2cm * 4 cm. Find radius of the circle.

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    Circle: x2 + y2 = r2

    The rectangle point touching the circle has coordinates

    -(r - 4), (r - 2)

    Substituting:

    (r - 4)2 + (r - 2)2 = r2

    and this leads to

    r2 - 12r + 20 = 0

    which has the roots 2 qnd 10. Obviously 10 is the correct answer.

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    On the right track, but not quite there

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    Originally posted by mendhak
    ... but not quite there
    Whaaaaaaat??????

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    I can't wait to see, why 10 should not be the correct answer!
    You did ask for radius, right!
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    :embarassed:

    Oh damn...

    I was performing the calculations using 4cm * 8 cm :very embarassed:

    OK, OK... the answer is 10.

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    What that means is you should pay more attention to the derivation itself than to the final numbers. Question: were you smoking at the time you figured that out?

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    Why, yes. Yes I was.

    I'll pay more attention next time. I'll be back with a tougher puzzle. Hopefully, you won't be able to solve it and will come crawling to me, BEGGING for a hint.

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    Originally posted by mendhak
    Why, yes. Yes I was.

    I'll pay more attention next time. I'll be back with a tougher puzzle. Hopefully, you won't be able to solve it and will come crawling to me, BEGGING for a hint.
    I'm all agog waiting for the next one to come. My face is looking like in the old days when I was broke, used to smoke and ran out of cigarettes.

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    it was obvious.... did it in like 14 seconds,

    there are 5 rectangles of length 4 cm in the big square, thus, 4 * 5 would be 20cm, the square has an area of 400cm^2,

    so, 20/2 would give you the radius, which is 10cm.

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    14 seconds, after 15 days cool!
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    Originally posted by prog_tom
    it was obvious.... did it in like 14 seconds,

    there are 5 rectangles of length 4 cm in the big square, thus, 4 * 5 would be 20cm, the square has an area of 400cm^2,

    so, 20/2 would give you the radius, which is 10cm.
    What if it was not to scale?

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    then there would be no correct way of finding the Correct radius.

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    Originally posted by krtxmrtz
    Circle: x2 + y2 = r2

    The rectangle point touching the circle has coordinates

    -(r - 4), (r - 2)

    Substituting:

    (r - 4)2 + (r - 2)2 = r2

    and this leads to

    r2 - 12r + 20 = 0

    which has the roots 2 qnd 10. Obviously 10 is the correct answer.
    This would still give the correct answer.

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    well that's because it's scaled,

    it's just that it supposes the radius is r.

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    Originally posted by prog_tom
    well that's because it's scaled,

    it's just that it supposes the radius is r.
    I think it's a sound assumption... If the radius is not r, then call it any name you like...
    Honestly I don't understand what you mean.

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