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    Talking Yet another puzzle

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    The rectangle in the corner is 2cm * 4 cm. Find the radius of the circle.

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    Well ...

    I don't know for sure if it can be solved , but this is an inappropriate place for it. Post it in the Maths section

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    WELL

    There have been puzzles here before.

    you're not going to go there and tell me to post it in chit chat, are you?

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    SHOW YOUR WORK!!!

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    *** show my work...


    how do you think i did it?

    its a math question.. i used ratios


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    Well ...

    Originally posted by mendhak
    WELL

    There have been puzzles here before.

    you're not going to go there and tell me to post it in chit chat, are you?
    It is a maths puzzle, that's why *pouts*

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    4*2^(1/2)

    4 times the square root of 2

    How?

    The rectangle is 8 cm^2.

    Each side of a square with the same area would have a length of the square root of 8, or 2*2^(1/2).

    The lower-right corner of the small square with these dimensions would be directly on the circle (not inside or outside), and half-way between the top edge and the left edge of the circle.

    Therefore, each side of the small square would be 1/4 the the length of each side of the big square, or 1/2 the radius of the circle.

    2*2^(1/2) = 4*2^(1/2) = 4 times the square root of 2!

    Is that right?

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    Nope!!

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    Oh, yeh! Hmm. Your right, the lower-right edge of such a small square wouldn't be on the circle. It would be inside it.

    Well, at least its the best try so far.

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    The only try so far.

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    An embarassing mistake...
    I was calculating using 4cm and 8 cm :sheepish grin:

    The answer is 10, but what is the method?

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    Difficult to explain in words but :

    1. Draw two radii (length R), one vertical and one horizontal to form a quadrant at the top left of the circle.
    2. Drop a vertical line from the bottom right hand corner of the box to the horizontal radius.
    3. Draw a horizontal line from the bottom right hand corner of the box to the vertical radius.

    Let's call the height of the box X and the width of the box Y

    Using Pythagoras

    (R - X)^2 + (R - Y)^2 = R^2

    Substituting the values for X and Y (2cm and 4cm respectively)

    (R - 2)^2 + (R - 4)^2 = R^2

    Expanding
    R^2 - 2R + 4 - 2R + R^2 - 4R + 16 - 4R = R^2
    Simplify
    R^2 - 12R + 20 = 0

    using x = -b +/- sqr(b^2 - 4ac)/2a

    gives R= 10cm

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    Originally posted by Simon Caiger
    Difficult to explain in words but :

    1. Draw two radii (length R), one vertical and one horizontal to form a quadrant at the top left of the circle.
    2. Drop a vertical line from the bottom right hand corner of the box to the horizontal radius.
    3. Draw a horizontal line from the bottom right hand corner of the box to the vertical radius.

    Let's call the height of the box X and the width of the box Y

    Using Pythagoras

    (R - X)2 + (R - Y)2 = R^2

    Substituting the values for X and Y (2cm and 4cm respectively)

    (R - 2)2 + (R - 4)2 = R^2

    Expanding
    R^2 - 2(2)R + 22 + 2R - 2(4)R + 42 = R^2
    Simplify
    R^2 - 12R + 20 = 0

    using x = -b +/- sqr(b^2 - 4ac)/2a

    gives R= 10cm

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    i had 10 damit..

    heres my work

    5 squares fix across the top.. so at
    4*5/2 = 10

    seems less complicated

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