Visual J# w/ VS.NET

**Rick LV** · Feb 7th, 2003, 02:05 PM

I just received VS .NET that I bought off eBay, and inside I saw the coupon to mail-in to receive Visual J#. Only thing is that the coupon expired 12-31-02. Is there any other way I can go about getting Visual J# from Microsoft?

**Cander** · Feb 7th, 2003, 02:34 PM

download

http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/...xml&frame=true

**Hu Flung Dung** · Feb 7th, 2003, 02:39 PM

What are the benefits of J# as opposed to the other .NET languages? It already seems redundant to me to have both C# and C++, or both VB.NET and C#.

**MrGTI** · Feb 7th, 2003, 03:27 PM

I got my free copy of J#, but i haven't had a use for it.

**Rick LV** · Feb 7th, 2003, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by Cander
download

http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/...xml&frame=true

thanks.

**MrPolite** · Feb 7th, 2003, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by Hu Flung Dung
What are the benefits of J# as opposed to the other .NET languages? It already seems redundant to me to have both C# and C++, or both VB.NET and C#.

useless I guess. Well C++ and C# are different. C++ can do more I think... but anyways, yeah, creating C# was a little weird since VB.NET does pretty much the same. Just the taste I guess

**PT Exorcist** · Feb 8th, 2003, 12:19 PM

yes lol i also think so..just the taste..lol

**hellswraith** · Feb 8th, 2003, 03:46 PM

but anyways, yeah, creating C# was a little weird since VB.NET does pretty much the same. Just the taste I guess

Your right to some degree, it is a matter of taste. But there is a good side effect of using the C# language over VB.Net. Sure they produce pretty much the same thing and have the same abilities (minus or plus a few features), but when you use C#, you are using a syntax that is in use by C++ and Java (plus or minus a few small differences). This means that it is a hell of a lot easier to switch over to these languages when they are needed.

For example, I haven't used Java in over a year and a coworker asked me for some help because she was learning Java and had no idea of what she was doing. I thought I wouldn't be able to help much without fumbling around a lot. I was completely wrong. I might as well have been writing C# code when I was helping her. I whipped out her complete assignment without having to reference anything at all for help. It felt good to be able to EASILY switch over to another language after not using it for over a year and produce what was needed in 10 minutes. This was a direct result of me using C# lately. If I would have stuck with VB.Net I wouldn't have been able to help her at all.

Just my thoughts on the language argument.... Sure VB.Net and C# are almost the same thing, but there are other benefits that you have to look at also.

**MrPolite** · Feb 8th, 2003, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by hellswraith
Your right to some degree, it is a matter of taste. But there is a good side effect of using the C# language over VB.Net. Sure they produce pretty much the same thing and have the same abilities (minus or plus a few features), but when you use C#, you are using a syntax that is in use by C++ and Java (plus or minus a few small differences). This means that it is a hell of a lot easier to switch over to these languages when they are needed.

For example, I haven't used Java in over a year and a coworker asked me for some help because she was learning Java and had no idea of what she was doing. I thought I wouldn't be able to help much without fumbling around a lot. I was completely wrong. I might as well have been writing C# code when I was helping her. I whipped out her complete assignment without having to reference anything at all for help. It felt good to be able to EASILY switch over to another language after not using it for over a year and produce what was needed in 10 minutes. This was a direct result of me using C# lately. If I would have stuck with VB.Net I wouldn't have been able to help her at all.

Just my thoughts on the language argument.... Sure VB.Net and C# are almost the same thing, but there are other benefits that you have to look at also.

yeah yeah

you;re right. I really want to learn C# but I will really miss vb syntax

**hellswraith** · Feb 8th, 2003, 06:48 PM

lol...

I did miss the VB syntax a lot when I first started myself since VB 6 was the strongest language I knew. Though, after about two weeks of using C#, the VB 6 and VB.Net syntax started to seem too wordy for me to use anymore. Switching to C# really isn't that bad either. There are only a few adjustments you have to make. Either way though, like you said, it is a personal choice. It won't affect your .Net applications either way.

**MrPolite** · Feb 8th, 2003, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by hellswraith
lol...

I did miss the VB syntax a lot when I first started myself since VB 6 was the strongest language I knew. Though, after about two weeks of using C#, the VB 6 and VB.Net syntax started to seem too wordy for me to use anymore. Switching to C# really isn't that bad either. There are only a few adjustments you have to make. Either way though, like you said, it is a personal choice. It won't affect your .Net applications either way.

umm I dunno if this has to do anything with this thread, but I'll ask anyways

I used to do some java and C/C++ a few years ago, I dont remember anything though. I'll be going to college next year, and I'll take a programming class perhaps. Do you think it's gunno be hard to learn C++/Java again if I still want to stick with vb.net? I mean would I confuse the syntax/basics?

**hellswraith** · Feb 8th, 2003, 09:49 PM

VB.Net will have no effect on your C++ or Java skills besides maybe being a little frustrated that you know how to do something in VB.Net, but don't in those languages. The thing is though, if you use C# now to make your .Net apps, you will easily get back into C++ and Java when you go to school. Just my opinion though...

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