Opera 7 final

**Rick Bull** · Jan 28th, 2003, 04:21 PM

Just in case anyone cares Opera have released their final of V7.

**JoshT** · Jan 29th, 2003, 11:31 AM

Cool. I've ran the beta and it's decent - I like some of the emulations when you switch to user stylesheet mode. I still like Phoenix the best, though.

**Rick Bull** · Jan 29th, 2003, 11:49 AM

Yeah I thought those style-sheets were pretty good too. You're right Gecko is definately better in a lot of areas (although Opera seems better at certain CSS).

**Sastraxi** · Jan 29th, 2003, 07:31 PM

I don't use software with ads built in, and I don't pay for browsers...

**Rick Bull** · Jan 30th, 2003, 06:20 AM

Heh, I actually don't mind the ads - if it helps them make money and carry on buiding their browser it doesn't bother me. As long as I don't have to pay for it. Plus I think it's a bit different with Gecko - they have AOL backing them!

**JoshT** · Jan 30th, 2003, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by Sastraxi
I don't use software with ads built in, and I don't pay for browsers...

So what browsers do you use? And don't say IE because you paid for that.

**Sastraxi** · Jan 30th, 2003, 12:44 PM

I use Phoenix...

**JoshT** · Jan 30th, 2003, 02:57 PM

Good, so do I

**Sastraxi** · Jan 30th, 2003, 11:18 PM

Phoenix est le meilleur des browsers

**Rick Bull** · Jan 31st, 2003, 05:25 AM

I prefer Mozilla because of some of the extra features, like the site navigation bar, and the mail client. But Phoenix is great if you don't want that.

**JoshT** · Jan 31st, 2003, 12:09 PM

I still use Netscape 4.7 as my mail client...

**Rick Bull** · Jan 31st, 2003, 02:30 PM

It's probably a bit insecure now isn't it? The mail client in one of the Mozilla nightlies is pretty good as it now comes with a junk mail filter, although I haven't really had any junk mail to test it, but I've been told it works really well

**JoshT** · Jan 31st, 2003, 07:46 PM

Not really that insecure, as far as I know I'm still new enough (4.77) to not be affected by any of the security holes (and MS Lookouy/Lookout Express has been far worse). I've used Mozilla for Usenet and such, but I'm too lazy to bother switching to a newer email client (hundreds of archived messages). I'd like to write my own 100% text based email client some time, though.

**Rick Bull** · Feb 1st, 2003, 09:00 AM

In which language? C++?

**JoshT** · Feb 3rd, 2003, 11:45 AM

Most likely Perl, I think, maybe using Tk.

**Rick Bull** · Feb 3rd, 2003, 06:26 PM

Oh right. So would it be an online thing you mean? Or under Linux (can you use Perl as a "proper" programming language?)?

**JoshT** · Feb 4th, 2003, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by Rick Bull
Oh right. So would it be an online thing you mean? Or under Linux (can you use Perl as a "proper" programming language?)?

No, either a CLI app or if I use Tk I'd could do a cross platform GUI app. Perl is a very full featured languages with a great library of functionality, and it runs on anything, it's just not compiled.

**DeadEyes** · Feb 5th, 2003, 05:44 AM

Opera 7 serious security flaws
http://www.greymagic.com/news/

**Rick Bull** · Feb 5th, 2003, 06:09 AM

Which have now been fixed - Opera version 7.01

**DeadEyes** · Feb 5th, 2003, 06:20 AM

What took them so long

**Rick Bull** · Feb 6th, 2003, 06:13 AM

Heh, yeah they're very quick aren't they? Said 5 days after it was reported.

How long has it been since IE 6 was released? SEems like a couple of years ago now, but maybe that's just me being impatient.

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