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    NEw chat client containing MSN ICQ , AIM AOL etc etc in one

    Hey people. i once worked on a msn client called ultima msn , but that never really got very popular.. i use a program called trillian for a while now which is a client of ICQ , MSN , AOL , YAHOO and irc. But most of its features suck and it is very unstable.. i think it would be great to develop a program like that only with much greater options and all... if anybody is in or has suggestions (places to find examples) i will be pleased ....


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    Ill join yo project... I spoke to u on ICQ, remember?


    Tell me what you need, im in!

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    Ok my idea is to create several user controlls each containing a protocol (client) they all can controll the main form.. i wil start on the main form. if you start with a client for icq i will start on the main form and maybe already on a msn client
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    Sure Jeroen, Im in mate. Give me the details over msn I think some of Trillian's features are nice though, like consider adding an automessage, skins (if possible). I will suggest more over msn when I think of some

    But yeah, count me in
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    Yeah skins are great ideas, and automessage is easy too
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    im in if u still need any help. i have a working aim client done in vb if need be. i might be able to help in skinning also. contack me on msn [email protected]

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    Hehe that is great. well i got allot of skinning done already i will email you the project i have upto now and you can see what you can do with it

    Oh btw we have come op with a really nice name :

    Chatopia
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    I just made a screenshot of what the program looks like upto now . Though no chat or connection to any server is made it is a start
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    Ok can now succesfully login into the msn server and also got some pretty nice features upto now.. Like enable CURSE WORDs.. with urlencode and urldecode i can use words like MSN **** **** http://www. etc etc without any problems of the server and that is pretty ace ...
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    i have a program that makes skins if you want it ill email it. are we just having msn and icq??

    if i remember chatopia is a name of a web chat site.

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    Well chatopia is only the project name. we will come up with a new name when it is time to think of one :P.. anyway ofcourse not only icq will be in there. You told us you can do aim right?
    and every connection is welcome.

    And a program that creates skins. that is like pre made and all right? i want to modify loads of stuff so i dont think we can use that for chatopia
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    how about u add a feature that lets you chat with users on the same LAN as you, so super fast transfer speeds and the such are possible, rather than thru the net to them... i can help with that.
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    I was thinking of adding our own simple p2p protocol which i was working on before this project so that is a big YES that we will do that. thanks for suggesting that... any change you will be joining us with some nice ideas?
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    count me in. tell me what i can work on and i will work on it.
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    Well what are you able to do this is what we want to add (and who is working on it)

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    Well what are you able to do this is what we want to add (and who is working on it)

    Connections :
    MSN - Ultimasnake
    ICQ - The Red One
    AIM - Lord Rayv3n
    YAHOO - ??????
    Own p2p protocol - ????

    Program itself
    GUI and skinning - Ultimasnake & Tomgibbons
    Other stuff - Everybody

    so if you can do YAHOO i will be very pleased on http://www.venkydude.com there is documentation about Yahoo. And if you think of anything else to pitch in with tell me
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    I have these if you want them:

    AIM(TOC) Control
    YIM(YMSG9) Control
    MSN(V8?) Control

    Only the MSN control has file transfer on it right now..

    They will be compiled but extremely easy to use, if your interested let me know, I already have them done, i just have to tweak them, so it'll take me about a week to get them to you, also I can provide webspace too if you need it.

    We should talk, I already have a lot of this done, as well as some other neat things, as well as a lot of helpful knowledge on my forums regarding this.. www.stealthonline.com/forums

    toto

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    sounds interesting ... would save me a mess of code got msn 40% done now but didnt have a clue about file transfer... in what form do you give them? Usercontrols? dll's? if you got msn please add me by adding [email protected] we will talk allong then
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    Can you have it so that the user can rename contacts like in trillian?
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    i will work on the p2p protocol for Local Network chats. i pretty much have a frame work of the stuff, all that needs to be done is merge it into the main project. it will use TCP/IP because its easy to deal with. let me optimize the code a bit and ill post it when im finished.
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    great. and yeah i might at that feature that trillian has too
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    come to think of it, its easier for me to add in the feature myself rather than post it and get it merged. how about i wait until the project is underway a bit more, then send me the source code of whats done so far, ill add in the code for LAN, and then re-post it back here.
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    What about help files for your IM program? I'd be interested in writing up some documentation,if you would like too see me do that.
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    sure sounds nice... ofcourse we should have a program first :P
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    I will write up some documentation for it-when we have the program ready. I can do it in .pdf (I have JAWS PDF Creator 2.11)or .rtf or .htm
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    perhaps its best to write the help file in .hlp format? it is the most common form of help file, but its only a suggestion...
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    Ok people.. i am going to work on a good skinnable version of the program (since everything is in user controls transfer should be easy.) but has anybody got an idea how to make a fully skinnable resizable program that also supports shaping the form and all? i am looking through Planet source code for some examples but dont have much luck up to now
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    This is an example about making windows regions from a bitmap, hope this helps...
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    well that example just show me how to use a single picture to make the shape i knew how to do that ages ago anyway i want to make one that is rezisable but also supports custom shapes and all :s had some examples but cant seem to find them anymore :S sigh
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    Sorry...

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    thats ok darn if i had the examples you might have made something out of it i dont get it at all :s
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    Hey Ultimasnake are you alive?

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