walking man

**merhaba** · Jan 18th, 2003, 11:44 AM

hi there.
Could you please explain how to "create a walking action"in VB..well I can do it easily using flash..but I only want to know if it is easier in VB...I only know how to "move buttons..labales or any objects on the form... thanks

**NoteMe** · Jan 18th, 2003, 12:09 PM

Are you looking to move a man or animate a man, or both at the same time???

**Cloral** · Jan 18th, 2003, 03:05 PM

First of all, don't do the animation by moving controls around in VB. You'll get a flickery animation. Instead, keep the images of the walking in offscreen memory somewhere, and use a method to copy the data to the visible area. The BitBlt API function is a good place to start - it isn't the fastest way to do this, but it is probably the easiest to understand and learn from.

**NoteMe** · Jan 18th, 2003, 03:08 PM

Yes but it also depends on the size of the picture and how fast it is supposed to move...small pictures seldom flicker at all...

If you are completly new to gaming in VB, then I would start with picture boxes before moving on to BitBlt and then to DX when I was ready....

**Sastraxi** · Jan 18th, 2003, 04:12 PM

I don't know about pictureboxes - it will leave you dependant on VB controls (I never went through that "phase" myself, just used BitBlt..).

**NoteMe** · Jan 18th, 2003, 04:36 PM

When I started programming I didn't know anyone else that could program. I did not have internet. So I pretty much learned by testing and failing. So I made my first small games using picture boxes and stuff. I thought it was easier to understand. It hided a lot of the difficult lines of coding. And it was easier for me to understand collision detection and stuff like that. But that was me for some years ago. I'm not sure what I will recommend for newbies these days.

**DOE** · Jan 22nd, 2003, 01:01 PM

I made a game in which I moved players around the screen and I think using BitBliting is by far the easiest way to do it. Other than learning the basics behind how to use it, and declaring it as an API, it is very easy to use.

**NoteMe** · Jan 22nd, 2003, 01:09 PM

Yes in fact it is just as easy as moving pictureboxes....but by using picture voxes you don't need to declare any APIs...

**anjulpa** · Jan 23rd, 2003, 09:02 AM

i dont think this is the topic the post was started for.
hey merhaba check out the skeletal animation tut at http://rookscape.com/vbgaming/
i think that's what he's lookig for

**BramVandenbon** · Jan 26th, 2003, 10:33 AM

hehe, I remembered when I started programming ... I was like 8 years old and asked my dad "how are games made ?" ... so he intruduced me to macro's in excel. It was very easy because you could just press record and after you pressed stop you could examine the code. I learned a lot then and made some really cool games in Excel. I made a AI-chess player when I was 12

(in Excell VBA) hehe

I didn't know about internet neither but ... that's REAL programming right ? achieving much without any resources at all

anyway ... Use Flash or VB ... it all depends of what you're trying to do. Is it a game you're making ? or just a kind of cartoon ?

Is it 3D or 2D ?

I would stick to flash if it's 2D and no user-input is needed.

**NoteMe** · Jan 26th, 2003, 11:14 AM

I can't see any reason to use Flash in stead of VB for a 2D game...

**BramVandenbon** · Jan 26th, 2003, 11:27 AM

ok

how much reasons do you want ?

- flash has nice motion tweening and shape tweening

(that's what flash is all about)
- you don't need to make calculations with flash, motions are 100% visual. Where in VB you would need to program it
- there's no flickering at all
- you can easely integrate it in websites
- it has lots of smoothing options

eye-candy

Flash is really made for this stuff

Last year I was in a school project sponsered by microsoft. And I made a very nice 3D-maze. People where really impressed by the power of flash. But actually I made it in 30 minutes.

**NoteMe** · Jan 26th, 2003, 11:33 AM

I know perfectly well how to use Flash...and I know perfectly good what Flash is capable of doing, but making BIG games with databases and Lots of animations, I don't think I would have choosen Flash for that....

....But why are you talking about flickering in VB...have you ever made a game in DX...I have never had any problems with flickering in my VB games. So I really want to see your code if you are capable of making flickering games in VB using DX....

Or maybe I don't want to look at it...[/

**BramVandenbon** · Jan 26th, 2003, 11:39 AM

I don't have flickering in DX neither

but this guy is a noob

are you gonna ask a noob to choose Direct X 8 instead of Flash

?! huh ?

About the database ... I know I would try db's in Flash neither (however it's possible). I would also do this in VB ... that's why I asked if it was a cartoon (=> flash) or a game (=> VB)

**BramVandenbon** · Jan 26th, 2003, 11:39 AM

unlesssssssssss you want a cartoon with a Database

**NoteMe** · Jan 26th, 2003, 01:40 PM

I have a database with cartoons...

....just kidding with you...

**BramVandenbon** · Jan 27th, 2003, 12:51 PM

is it a Ren and Stimpy Cartoon ?

would explain a lot

**merhaba** · Jan 27th, 2003, 04:10 PM

okay guys

it is me that started this thread..but still I havent got the answer
as how to craete " a WALKING ACTION MAN" in VB...this I can do easily in flash...but how is it in vb..
thanks guy...

there is no lazy man.but there are those that havent been MOTÝVATED...

**NoteMe** · Jan 27th, 2003, 04:14 PM

And we have still not got any answer to what method you are using for your graphics in VB. If you are using pictureboxes. Then you can load in the diffrent pictues of the animation at runtime using a timer. If you are using BitBlt. Then place all the pictures in pictureboxes, and then blt them to the screen at runtime. If you are using DX then make a big sprite with all the pictures of the animation and blt the part of the sprite you want to show, to the back buffer. You can do that if you are using BitBlt to, but then Blt it to the screen...

**BramVandenbon** · Jan 27th, 2003, 05:04 PM

well merhaba you know how to move objects... now learn to work with the timer control. And that's all you need

Ofcourse you could use a usercontrol instead. Make the leggs of the person move inside the usercontrol. Put the control you made, in the form and move it with another timer.

We're helping. But a dialog should go in 2 directions.

**NoteMe** · Jan 27th, 2003, 05:06 PM

We're helping. But a dialog should go in 2 directions.

AMEN....

**BramVandenbon** · Jan 27th, 2003, 05:25 PM

you see a dialog is a bit like a walking man !

...
ow actually it's not

...

>>makes no sence

...
> Well Bram, just shut up then

...
>> Ok then

hehe, at least that's a dialog

or a "monolog" ... Hey we should make a new post about this important conflict

and now, back to the topic of this post

**CrazedWombat** · Jan 27th, 2003, 06:27 PM

hey
wow BramVandenbon, your starting to make me think that the cracked your smoking is getting to your brains, you should know that you shouldnt let the voices in your head reach the public...

shut up you, dont talk that crazytalk, the world needs to hear us

er...you didnt hear that...um...anyways, stop smoking crack, weed is better

no no crack...crack...

running away now...-wheres that closest?-

**BramVandenbon** · Jan 28th, 2003, 01:59 PM

hey listen up man

hey man

yeah you man !

I'm takin' no drugs from youuuuuuuu or from anybody maaaaan

cracking software is illegal and my mother hates weed. I always have to help in the garden

now, beat it maaaaan

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