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    i is undefined and all triangles are equilateral

    this one is quiet subtle:

    (i-i^(-1))^(-1)

    =

    (i+i^(-1))[(i-i^(-1))(i+i^(-1))]^(-1)

    =(i+i^(-1))[i^2-1/i^2]^(-1)
    =(i+i^(-1))[-1+1]^(-1)
    =(i+i^(-1))(0)^(-1)
    =undefined! (since 0^(-1) or in other words, 1/0 is undefined!)

    (i-i^(-1))^(-1)
    =i(i(i-i^(-1)))^(-1)
    =i(i^2-1)^(-1)
    =i(-2)^(-1)
    =-i/2

    so -i/2=undfined
    so either -1/2 is undfined or i is undefined

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    given an arbitary triangle ABC, draw angle bisector at A and perpendicular bisector and BC.

    if the two lines are congruent, then you know that AB=AC.

    case 2: let them meet at D. draw E,F,G such that DE, DF, DG perpendicular to BC, AC, AB respectively.

    since BAD=CAD (angle bisector) and DGA=DFA=90, and AD=AD (common side) then we have triangle ADG is congruent to ADF. so AG=AF, GD=GF

    also, we have BE=EC (bisector), and DEB=DEC=90 and ED=ED we have triangle BDE is congruent to triangle EDC

    so BD=DC.

    triangle BDG is also congruent to triangle CDF because GD=DF and BD=DC as shown above and BGD=CFD=90. so BG=FC

    since AG=AF and GB=FC then AB=BC

    do that to other two sides to get all triangles are equilateral
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    The only thing I can come up with for that without reading it, is that you've either divided by zero somewhere or factorized something using zero as a factor to trick us
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    Re: i is undefined and all triangles are equilateral

    Originally posted by bugzpodder
    [B]this one is quiet subtle:

    (i-i^(-1))^(-1)

    =

    (i+i^(-1))[(i-i^(-1))(i+i^(-1))]^(-1)

    =(i+i^(-1))[i^2-1/i^2]^(-1)
    =(i+i^(-1))[-1+1]^(-1)
    How is:
    (i+i^(-1))[i^2-1/i^2]^(-1)
    equal to
    (i+i^(-1))[-1+1]^(-1)

    ???

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    The only thing I can come up with for that without reading it, is that you've either divided by zero somewhere or factorized something using zero as a factor to trick us
    then you should read it first!


    How is:
    (i+i^(-1))[i^2-1/i^2]^(-1)
    equal to
    (i+i^(-1))[-1+1]^(-1)
    ??? how is it not? substitute i^2=-1, you get -1-(1/(-1))
    which is -1+1=0!!
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    Originally posted by bugzpodder

    ??? how is it not? substitute i^2=-1, you get -1-(1/(-1))
    which is -1+1=0!!
    Oops!


    When you said i is undefined, I was thinking it was just another variable, not i2 = -1.


    BTW, does the statement "i is undefined" implicitly mean "i2 = -1", or can you have several undefined variables, where none of them equal each other, and none are necessarily = -1 when squared?

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    no forget about "i is undfined" just take at as simplifying the equation:

    (i-i^(-1))^(-1)

    if you do it two different ways (As shown above) you'll get undefined as one answer, and -i/2 as another.
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    Talking hehe...

    To dissprove the fact that all triangles are equilateral, you just have to realise that of points F and G (feet of perpendiculars to AB and AC from point D), on of these will lie a side, on will lie on the other side's extension, so one of your similar triangle uses will be incorrect
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    good observation, except you didn't proof what you "realize". and did you see something wrong the the "i" question
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    In the term [(i-i^(-1))(i+i^(-1))]^(-1) which, for the sake of clarity, I'm going to write as

    1 / [ (i - 1/i) * (i + 1/i) ]

    you have a division by 0. Indeed:

    1/i = i/i2 = i/-1 = -i

    Therefore, i + 1/i = 0

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    told ya it was subtle! Multiply top and bottom by 0 is fun
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    Bugz,
    You said if the two lines are congruent then AB=AC, but then you proceeded to prove that AB=AC; therefore, there is no distinct point of intersection, because the lines are one and the same.
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    Re: i is undefined and all triangles are equilateral

    I would try to figure it out if i didn't have to read so much one-line-math-notation

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