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Dec 27th, 2002, 01:40 PM
#1
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can't install .net framework
I downloaded the dot net framework redistributable and when I try to intstall it I get a message saying that it cannot install because it cannot update my win 98 install program.
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Dec 27th, 2002, 02:18 PM
#2
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I just downloaded the windows intaller update for win98 and installed it but I still get this same message.
must update windows installer.
I pressed OK.
Then it says:
cannot access windows installer componants.
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Dec 27th, 2002, 02:48 PM
#3
Hyperactive Member
You may need to update the Windows Installer. You can get that here.
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Dec 27th, 2002, 02:50 PM
#4
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Whoops, i see you already tried that. Do you have windows Installer in your ADD/REMOVE programs? If so remove and install the newest one.
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Dec 27th, 2002, 03:24 PM
#5
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No, you were right. The one I installed was 1.42 megs where as the one you pointed me to is 1.62 megs.
It worked!
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Dec 27th, 2002, 05:23 PM
#6
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Great! Good luck with .NET... Its Fun... 
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Dec 27th, 2002, 05:47 PM
#7
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If I can make programs that do not require the dot net framework to run I will use a dot net language like C# but if not I'll learn C++ and use it.
Does C++.net require the .net framework to run the applications that I would make with it?
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Dec 27th, 2002, 07:46 PM
#8
PowerPoster
If you use the .Net features of VC++, yes you will still require the .Net framework. If you are truely trying to get away from any depencies, I would look into using a whole different IDE, something like borland. The reason I say this is because the .Net IDE will temp you to use some of its features (and you will be tempted because of the ease of use) and then your code won't be able to run without the framework. It is possible to create non .net apps with the VC++ compiler, but why spend the money on it if you are not going to use it for what it was designed for?
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Dec 28th, 2002, 12:29 AM
#9
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So, I can learn the C# language and make programs with it that do not require the .net framework to be installed?
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Dec 28th, 2002, 10:32 AM
#10
No. All C# programs require the framework.
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Dec 28th, 2002, 10:33 AM
#11
And I disagree with hellswraith. You can easily use VC++7 to build independent apps.
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Dec 28th, 2002, 02:40 PM
#12
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You can easily use VC++7 to build independent apps.
I think hellswraith already said that.
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Dec 28th, 2002, 05:09 PM
#13
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I guess I will stick with C++ for now until dot net is more suitable for everyone.
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Dec 29th, 2002, 12:08 AM
#14
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I think right now .NET is suitable for everyone.
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Dec 29th, 2002, 04:50 AM
#15
I referred to this:
If you are truely trying to get away from any depencies, I would look into using a whole different IDE, something like borland.
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Dec 29th, 2002, 11:09 AM
#16
PowerPoster
I am just saying that in VC++, you will be tempted to use the win only features. That is all I meant by that. Also, if your not going to be using those features, why buy VC++ when you can get something cheaper.
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Dec 29th, 2002, 01:04 PM
#17
The Borland C++ IDE isn't cheap either, and you'll be just as tempted (if not more) to use Win-only features.
And what do you mean by Win-only? Is the WinAPI Win-only? If so, then only console apps are exempt from your recommendation, and who wants to only build console apps?
VC++7 was not really designed to use .NET features. There's a strict distinction between C++ and Managed C++ (although you can mix them) and the primary purpose of VC++7 is still the development of real C++ apps.
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Dec 29th, 2002, 07:47 PM
#18
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If you want to use C/C++, I recommend Visual C++ 6.0 without MFC. Write Once, Run Anywhere (On Windows Platform  ). Large Application Development in C# is slow and the target applications are slow too.
C# is very Java-like, yet C++ and C# share similiar syntax.
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Dec 29th, 2002, 10:35 PM
#19
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Thank you for all of your help. You are very kind to use your time like this for me.
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