Developers needed

[atesh_yurdakul]

We've started a company named OfficeSoftware and we're looking for VB developers to help us.

If you're interested,just mail me or send me a IM message.
Try not to use AIM,I'm using AIM v1.0

[DanC2k2]

need more info...

[Osnr]

Hello there,

I'm Omar Rizwan.

Please email me ([email protected]) if you are interested and need more info.

I can't post the info here because it is in the form of a long conversation by IM.

Thanks,
Omar

[aafuss]

What kind of software is going to be developed by Office Software?

[Osnr]

Are you mad? The company name is Office Software. Get the point?

Also, we aren't helping you out on any more shells. We just quit OK?

I might let you help out sometime late next year, but I've had enough of "Babya".

Omar

[aafuss]

OK, I understand-so what is your company's main development focus-what willyou be programming in the future?

[Osnr]

Basically, our new focus is on:

• Office programs (like MS Office, but in VB) in Lite (free) and Pro editions.
• Other apps that might appeal to homes or small-to-medium sized buisnesses.

IM me (Yahoo) for details.

Omar

[aafuss]

Thankyou for the information-that sounds more useful in today's world. I hope that it will be a success-although I could help in the future (maybe next year). So, has anyone joined yet-any developers signed up?

[atesh_yurdakul]

You can reach our discussion board on
Office Software Discussion List

See you there

[Osnr]

That link only works with Lotus Notes. We are still accepting new developers.

The more, the merrier!

Omar
Founder of ProgWare (new company name)

[Skitchen8]

lmao at the people who think they can develop Office like app's in VB.... VB is a great IDE n language, but it has its limits, and they are well before developing software like that

[Osnr]

We are not simply using VB, we are using other languages as well. This helps to break the VB barrier.

[Skitchen8]

so your trying to combin multiple languages?? so in the credits you can write written in Q-VCB++??

[Osnr]

Technically, that doesn't belong in the credits. Also, I would like to point out that using multiple languages allows you to combine the best of many languages.

Omar

[Skitchen8]

yes, and also gives you pure hell trying to combine multiple languages into one program, i don't believe i've ever seen it done, i've seen VB programs ported to C++ and C++ converted to VB, but never a VCB++ program...

[Osnr]

It is possible, but we do it by using C++ components in VB programs.

[Skitchen8]

im assuming your meaning by using DLL's to use in VB, the point is the software will be too slow running from VB to have any practical use in the office, and even at half the price of Office most CEO's would still purchast Office because speed is something needed in the corporate world.

[meandmymachine]

Hi

I'm proficient in C++, Java and Visual Basic. If you're still looking for a developer, drop me a line at [email protected]

cheers

meandmymachine

[TheSarlacc]

i agree with skitchen8. honestly, no frills. cmon people, combining languages is dis-advantaging the better language used in the combo. and the idea of using VB is like building a furnace out of plastic. stick to one language (C++ is ur best bet), and if u dont know it, learn it or an equivalent one. VB is gr8, but not in terms of speed.

[MerrionComputin]

I wonder if you have actiually done any speed comparisons....a compiled VB 6 program is pretty much as quick as one with equivalent functionality written in Visual C++ 7...and given that 75% of your program's functionality is going to be implemented by the windows core dlls (USER/GDI/KERNEL) you have very little scope to speed up an office-type program.

[meandmymachine]

This is a message to osnr. Hi. I got your e-mail but I couldn't send one back. Apparently, your mail box at MSN is full to capacity and it's not taking any more messages. I'm interested in the position of VB developer. If you could send me a few more details, like about the assignment itself, deadlines etc, I'd be grateful. Best regards,

meandmymachine

[Osnr]

Hi, sorry for that. My e-mail's been broken for a little while. It works now.

[Pc_Madness]

What sort of Office progs will u be making, and how do u plan on making it better than the other products on the market? Will it be freeware?

And, if you want to release products for money, then people will want speed, which is better achieved in C++, even if VB is easier.

[Osnr]

It's a free/professional edition sort of thing. Also the new thread is here:

http://www.galahtech.com/forums/show...&threadid=1155

[made_of_asp]

Originally posted by MerrionComputin
I wonder if you have actiually done any speed comparisons....a compiled VB 6 program is pretty much as quick as one with equivalent functionality written in Visual C++ 7...and given that 75% of your program's functionality is going to be implemented by the windows core dlls (USER/GDI/KERNEL) you have very little scope to speed up an office-type program.

I would have to disagree with that. When I was in process of developing my own full-scale FTP client, I started making it in VB [IDE], with a combination of C++ Dll's[Code]. By the time I was finished, I had a look at the app and decided to do the entire thing in C++. Why? The end result showed: The VB program took away 10 times more memory than C++ counter-part, was bug filled and froze a lot.

Visual Basic adds an extra layer and around your code + COM, which results in slow processing. Yes, the end is still API functions, but they are wrapped within a very thick layer of code (probably some of it, you don't need).

Sooner or later(if you are developing an Office App, a server or something powerful) you will need to use multithreading, and that is another point where you can get stuck.

If you want to do a test, it is simple. Make a dummy VB and C++ program with about 5 forms, each filled with items. Use a richtext control for VB and C++ RichEdit API somewhere. Some buttons, etc.

Restart your computer and run it without starting VB6 or anything.
You should see startup difference.

[CornedBee]

Actually speed is not one of the good points of MS Office. The only noticeable advantage of Word over similar apps is that it's the only app that can read a doc file to perfection - and that's an artificial advantage.