New Forum rules

[Ianpbaker]

By posting, you hereby grant us a perpetual, exclusive license to the posted content for use online, in print, databases, CD, and any and all other media, whether now known or hereafter created.

We will make money out of you helping people

You will not post any material that is knowingly false, misleading, or inaccurate.

we don't want the material that we package up and sell without checking to be tosh

You will not behave in an abusive and/or hateful manner, and will not harrass, threaten, nor attack anyone.

fair comment

You will not use profanity in our forums, and will neither post with language or content that is obscene, sexually oriented, or sexually suggestive nor link to sites that contain such content.

only post if you are a monk

You will respect other people's right to personal privacy and will not post any other person's identifying information (including their names, contact information, and any other relevant information) within the forum but your own.

although there is the data protection act to adhear to, we are gonna make money out of you from point one, so we'll be nice

You will not use these forums to violate any laws nor to discuss illegal activities.

you will respect my authority (Beefcake)

[quote]
You will not to impersonate any person or entity, forge headers or otherwise manipulate identifiers in order to disguise the origin of any posting, nor collect or store personal data about other users.

You will not post any copyrighted material, nor link to any copyrighted material (with the exception of publicly available sites and pages that the legal owners of the copyrights have created to make that material freely available to the general public), unless that copyright is owned by you or by these Forums.

again, go back to point one

You will not use these Forums for the purposes of sharing or distributing viruses, licenses, registration information, software keys, "cracks," or other information designed to do harm to or allow unlawful access to any computer hardware, software, networks, or any other systems.

Ok about the viruses, but the rest go's back to point one

You will not post advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, or solicitations, all of which are inappropriate and prohibited in the Forums. You will not, furthermore, collect personal information about forum members for the purpose of sending them any such advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, or solicitations through other means (email, messaging programs, etc.).

but we will quiete happily post up banners and the like, which we will get money for

You will not post messages that are clearly outside of the stated topic of any Forums nor disrupt a forum by deliberately posting repeated irrelevant messages or copies of identical messages (also known as "flooding").

Where's Noah when you need him

You will not attempt to access any protected sections of the sites or Forums, nor make use of any hacks, cracks, bug exploits, etc. to bypass or modify the features of the forum software at any Jupitermedia site.

fair comment

You will, if asked by a representative of the Forums, cease posting any content, and/or links to content, deemed offensive, objectionable, or in poor taste by the staff of the Forums.

Oh well, there goes chit-chat

[Bonker Gudd]

Everyone except Simonm are now banned

[Flustor]

You will not use profanity in our forums, and will neither post with language or content that is obscene, sexually oriented, or sexually suggestive nor link to sites that contain such content.

*backs off*

*packs bags*

[Q_Me]

If we want to use profanity can we use sensors or speak it in 1337 or CYRI or filter it with those?

[OrdinaryGuy]

that means no more cussing and calling Ranj a f u c king homo?

[plenderj]

Well those are the rules yes.
One must always cover one's own ass.

[Slaine]

Originally posted by OrdinaryGuy
that means no more cussing and calling Ranj a f u c king homo?

Mammary Gland

[Flustor]

What will I do with my excess flirting? Just let it go to waste?

[plenderj]

Originally posted by Flustor
What will I do with my excess flirting? Just let it go to waste?

Just point it all in my direction

[msimmons]

When does this go into effect? or has it already?

[parksie]

I'm not convinced about the "use of posts" thing. So does that mean they own the content of posts I've made?

I've posted code on this site that's taken a lot of effort to write, and I have no doubts that a significant number of other people have put a lot of time into this as well.

If they want to make a profit out of this they should have asked us *first*.

[Slaine]

As far as I am concerned I am the copyright owner of all code I have posted. Any use of it without my express wishes will be considered a violation of that right.

[OrdinaryGuy]

Originally posted by parksie
I'm not convinced about the "use of posts" thing. So does that mean they own the content of posts I've made?

I've posted code on this site that's taken a lot of effort to write, and I have no doubts that a significant number of other people have put a lot of time into this as well.

If they want to make a profit out of this they should have asked us *first*.

well its nothing new though, PSCode.com does the same thing. I brought up this issue sometime ago, but everyone seemed to disagree w/ me then

[OrdinaryGuy]

pscode.com sells CDs with the source code of other people

[parksie]

When we found out about that before I don't think people were too impressed either

[Slaine]

Originally posted by OrdinaryGuy
pscode.com sells CDs with the source code of other people

Not mine they don't

when I posted my code to this forum there was no such agreement in place. I can accept that from now on my posted code is not my property and not post stuff i don't want them to have, but they shouldn't retroactively enforce it.

[brad jones]

I'll address what seems to be a big issue:
Any code -- unless you sold it to VBWorld/VBForums -- is owned by the poster.

[Wally Pipp]

In honesty, if we automatically grant you a license, shouldn't we draw up an EULA for the posted code and the code we will post in the future ?

I mean, I submit what is still my code but you get de facto a license for it. Shouldn't it be us who decides what you may and may not do with your copy ? Shouldn't we be consulted first and asked permission before you go off using it ?

It could be that this is what you mean to do with the submitted code but I just wanted to ask

[Slaine]

Originally posted by brad jones
I'll address what seems to be a big issue:
Any code -- unless you sold it to VBWorld/VBForums -- is owned by the poster.

Thankyou

[RSINGH]

Originally posted by OrdinaryGuy
that means no more cussing and calling Ranj a f u c king homo?

Call me what you want you donkey rapist.

[rinoaheartilly]

Originally posted by plenderj
Just point it all in my direction

don't forget me!

[Wally Pipp]

okay, henceforth you're known as "What you want you donkey rapist"

Bit of a long name but we'll survive.

We'll shorten it to WYWYDR

So WYWYDR, how's tricks these days ?

[crptcblade]

Originally posted by RSINGH
Call me what you want you donkey rapist.

Now, let's clarify...Is that a raper of donkeys or a donkey that's a rapist?

[parksie]

Originally posted by brad jones
I'll address what seems to be a big issue:
Any code -- unless you sold it to VBWorld/VBForums -- is owned by the poster.

"Owned". Doesn't necessarily mean someone won't use it.

[RSINGH]

Originally posted by Wally Pipp
okay, henceforth you're known as "What you want you donkey rapist"

Bit of a long name but we'll survive.

We'll shorten it to WYWYDR

So WYWYDR, how's tricks these days ?

Doh!!

[Wally Pipp]

So how's you then mate ?

[RSINGH]

Not bad mate - actually very well. Just incredibly busy at the mo' with a huge systems integration project. et toi?

[NotLKH]

I beleive that with these new sets of rules, it should be required that we reregister, thus "consenting" to these new rules.

Also, since the rules make what we post brads property, then couldn't it be a chargable offense if we delete posts?


Anyways, if these rules go into effect, verbatum, I will delete all my posts, then happily go to one of our other ex-members sites.

BTW, "personal information", if I called someone by there true first name, that could be a chargable offense it would seem.

-Lou

[Wally Pipp]

Moi is settling in a midlife modus operandi
Intense meditation techniques paired with a general "fook it" attitude makes life easier.
Still busy, busy, busy. Project has gone in overdrive.

Still, can't complain really

[msimmons]

Originally posted by msimmons
When does this go into effect? or has it already?

No one wants to tell you dude, sorry.

[plenderj]

Originally posted by msimmons
No one wants to tell you dude, sorry.

Well the buyout is complete, so I would guess that it all takes effect pretty-much-so immediately...?

[Cander]

You will not post any material that is knowingly false, misleading, or inaccurate.

So if someone asks something stupid like: 'How do I write in virus?', we cant tell them to open a Dos prompt, type del *.*, and that will show them how?

[MasterBlaster]

[Cander]

You just entered a warzone MB. j4u got banned and all hell broke loose!

[Zaei]

Originally posted by NotLKH
I beleive that with these new sets of rules, it should be required that we reregister, thus "consenting" to these new rules.

Also, since the rules make what we post brads property, then couldn't it be a chargable offense if we delete posts?


Anyways, if these rules go into effect, verbatum, I will delete all my posts, then happily go to one of our other ex-members sites.

BTW, "personal information", if I called someone by there true first name, that could be a chargable offense it would seem.

-Lou

I have to agree here... I wont be posting anything new from here on, and I wont be posting code.

Z.

[MasterBlaster]

[Zaei]

By "new" i was referring to anything ive written, etc. I wasnt saying I wont post anymore (perhaps).
No, this first thing scares me....

By posting, you hereby grant us a perpetual, exclusive license to the posted content for use online, in print, databases, CD, and any and all other media, whether now known or hereafter created.

Exclusive?

I do realize that the rules are general, and must cover serveral sites, spanning several, and not necessarily related topics. However, It sounds very much like "All your post are belong to us".

Z.

[techgnome]

Where the smeg are these "new" rules???

[Zaei]

http://www.internet.com/corporate/privacy/aup.html

Z.

[msimmons]

Techinicly code I write is property of my employer so how does that work if I post some code?