Is the MS Office written in VB?

**TupacShakur** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:00 PM

Hey all,
u can never imagine how pissed off i am!
Why? Because i have a bunch of ignorant teachers at my university (which by the way does not offer a VB course for computer sciences students!). They keep dissing VB, ironizing its powers, and neglecting all its advantages. In other words, they keep telling me: VB is nothing, VB is ****, VB is for kids, a real programmer should never learn VB... Now we all know this is not true. But i need to know if any MS Office set was written in VB? If yes, where can i get a reliable proof for that?? Please guys, i need to stand up for VB, and face my UNIX teacher (who by the way thinks that one day, soon enough, all computers will run a UNIX operating system, because windows is as ****TY as VB!!). Any help on this guys??
Thanx all

**Cander** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:02 PM

Office is not written in VB.

Your teachers are still smoking crack. That is typical anit VB attitude by people who nothing about it.

**Cander** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:03 PM

And tell your teacher to kiss my white hairy butt. I probably make alot more money programming VB apps for the Air Force than he does teaching Nix.

**maxl** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:05 PM

Talk to them about Vb's strenght : DATABASES, ADO rules !!!

**IROY55** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:08 PM

I would refuse taking a class from any professor being such shmock as yours. Anyways, I'm not sure about MS Office (I've read somewhere about some modules developed in VB) but early versions of Quiken were definitely written in VB3, VB4.

Cheers

**ben1523** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:09 PM

I've been told Excel is written purely in VB (though it seemd unlikely, unless a **** load of API's were used. Cader, what sort of things do you have to do for the air force (or was it a joke

)

**TupacShakur** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Cander
And tell your teacher to kiss my white hairy butt. I probably make alot more money programming VB apps for the Air Force than he does teaching Nix.

Yeap! I'm pretty sure about this.. That's why i decided to learn vb and become an expert in it, all by my own (of course with using the F1 key, and surfing through the vbforums page!). One day, i'm gonna buy this whole ****ING univeristy with a one month income form programming VB apps.. yea, for sure.. no doubt.

**Cander** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by ben1523
I've been told Excel is written purely in VB (though it seemd unlikely, unless a **** load of API's were used. Cader, what sort of things do you have to do for the air force (or was it a joke )

Excel is not written in VB at all. And no I was not joking. I do desktop adn web applications..

Actually you know whats funny Tupac? Most the projects I do are re-writting old Unix application into Windows apps using VB..

mwhuahaha.. Eat that *nix teacher!

**techgnome** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Cander
And tell your teacher to kiss my white hairy butt. I probably make alot more money programming VB apps for the Air Force than he does teaching Nix.

hrmm......

Does "MAD DUCKS QUACK!" make sense to you?

**nemaroller** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:15 PM

Don't get too rustled... VB is a new language to these old dogs of programming... its only been around 10 years... the last time they probably even saw VB was in its early stages.. vb1 or 2...

You see, they grew up punching holes in cards to program machines... and then they moved to command line interfaces (wow, bet that saved a lot of pain)...

You slap them down a copy VB.NET, and tell them if they don't think its the most versatile, productive, and easy language to use... they have officially declared themselves as dinosaurs...

**TupacShakur** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Cander
mwhuahaha.. Eat that *nix teacher!

I'ma eat him alive all right! ****ing bastard that prefers using the VI editor rather than a simple Notepad!
Anyway, what about other windows standard programs?? what about Notepad, Calc, Card games, other programs?? Anything in VB?? Please say yes!

**maxl** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by TupacShakur
Hey all,
u can never imagine how pissed off i am!
Why? Because i have a bunch of ignorant teachers at my university (which by the way does not offer a VB course for computer sciences students!). They keep dissing VB, ironizing its powers, and neglecting all its advantages. In other words, they keep telling me: VB is nothing, VB is ****, VB is for kids, a real programmer should never learn VB... Now we all know this is not true. But i need to know if any MS Office set was written in VB? If yes, where can i get a reliable proof for that?? Please guys, i need to stand up for VB, and face my UNIX teacher (who by the way thinks that one day, soon enough, all computers will run a UNIX operating system, because windows is as ****TY as VB!!). Any help on this guys??
Thanx all

I've been having the same fight with my brother for 4 years now lol. He went to university and I didn't.

**DanC2k2** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:20 PM

You and your brother obviously like holding grudges :P

**TupacShakur** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by maxl
I've been having the same fight with my brother for 4 years now lol. He went to university and I didn't.

Why??

**maxl** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by TupacShakur
I'ma eat him alive all right! ****ing bastard that prefers using the VI editor rather than a simple Notepad!
Anyway, what about other windows standard programs?? what about Notepad, Calc, Card games, other programs?? Anything in VB?? Please say yes!

I think VB is mostly used by business who need custom management softwares or stuff similar. I think not a lot of commercial app sold in stores are made with it.

**maxl** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by TupacShakur
Why??

He's saying the same thing that your teachers are saying : VB=**** C rules, all that crap, maybe fight is a too big word for what I meant lol

**nemaroller** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:47 PM

Not many large commercial apps are made in vb6....

But you can bet many will be made in VB.net....

As far as going to college for programming, well, as long as he's going for a computer science degree... then yes, he probably knows more about algorithms, bits and bytes then you'll ever pick up from hobby programming... but if its some other degree like MIS, don't hold his opinion as solid... MIS programs dabble in programming, but never go into the detail of CS degrees... I should know, I'm a MIS major taking CS courses just to fulfill GER's... and phew, they get serious...

**TupacShakur** · Nov 14th, 2002, 03:55 PM

what's MIS??

**maxl** · Nov 14th, 2002, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by nemaroller
Not many large commercial apps are made in vb6....

But you can bet many will be made in VB.net....

As far as going to college for programming, well, as long as he's going for a computer science degree... then yes, he probably knows more about algorithms, bits and bytes then you'll ever pick up from hobby programming... but if its some other degree like MIS, don't hold his opinion as solid... MIS programs dabble in programming, but never go into the detail of CS degrees... I should know, I'm a MIS major taking CS courses just to fulfill GER's... and phew, they get serious...

I didn't go to university because we have something here in our scholar system between high school and college. I learned VB there and they also thought me about bits and bytes , etc. But my formation is more technical, pratical than his(computer enginneer)

**seoptimizer2001** · Nov 14th, 2002, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by TupacShakur
I'ma eat him alive all right! ****ing bastard that prefers using the VI editor rather than a simple Notepad!
Anyway, what about other windows standard programs?? what about Notepad, Calc, Card games, other programs?? Anything in VB?? Please say yes!

I think that some of those simple apps may be written in VB. When I was in one of my VB classes we wrote our own notepad. But I think that you're teach has lost it because VB is very flexible and very appropriate for many situations, not all. It just depends on what you are trying to do.

**PT Exorcist** · Nov 14th, 2002, 04:32 PM

ppl who trash vb are ppl who doesnt even touched a day vb...so they like to talk about what they dont know..

**Da_Man** · Nov 14th, 2002, 06:24 PM

The MSN Messenger was made in VB I know cause i'm duplicating it, it seems easy to duplicate. and it make's more sense to do it in VB. Not sure about the XP messenger but the old one was definitly writtin in vb 5 or 6

It's Strange though we have VB in our High School but the guy is an absolute twit, he loves VB and has no room for other programming languages, last year he tol;d me i'm going to go to Dublin to learn C#, he comes back and tells me it's too much like VB i dont have to learn it. So when i ask him question out of his course in VB, he tells me, i'll give it to you tomm. I'm like ok he doesnt find, i come to VBForums.com find and he says Oh yeah u could do it that way trying to claim that he knew it and taking my crdits away by telling the class he found a way, I tried it again but this time i told the answer to the class and boy did he make a fool out of himself...

Why dont you try somthing similar with those dinosaurs at University or give me their E-mail addresses. I like making twits squeel.....

**nabeels786** · Nov 14th, 2002, 06:29 PM

MSN was not made in VB

**Nightwalker83** · Nov 14th, 2002, 06:32 PM

Office is not written in VB.

How times have people said that? People still bother to ask that same question:

Is the MS Office written in VB?

**Pc_Madness** · Nov 14th, 2002, 06:40 PM

Nearly every major program, created in by a major company, is written in C++, as it just kicks VB's ass.

**Nightwalker83** · Nov 14th, 2002, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by Pc_Madness
Nearly every major program, created in by a major company, is written in C++, as it just kicks VB's ass.

VB is too slow for something like that.

**VB_ChickenPower** · Nov 14th, 2002, 06:53 PM

An arguement used so often that it's basicly worn out is that if a programmer gets paid by the hour to make a program for a company, who's the company going to choose? The programmer that can do it in 12 hours at $8 an hour using c++, or the programmer that can do it in 8 hours at $8 an hour using VB?

That's where VB's strength lies. Yes, you can get the record 50 milliseconds faster in C, but is the company willing to pay the extra money for a small speed increase?

**Pc_Madness** · Nov 14th, 2002, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by VB_ChickenPower
An arguement used so often that it's basicly worn out is that if a programmer gets paid by the hour to make a program for a company, who's the company going to choose? The programmer that can do it in 12 hours at $8 an hour using c++, or the programmer that can do it in 8 hours at $8 an hour using VB?

That's where VB's strength lies. Yes, you can get the record 50 milliseconds faster in C, but is the company willing to pay the extra money for a small speed increase?

I would hope so....

**VB_ChickenPower** · Nov 14th, 2002, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Pc_Madness
I would hope so....

If speed in C++/VB were the same which would you use?

**Pc_Madness** · Nov 14th, 2002, 07:02 PM

Well... C++, because it can do more advanced stuff than VB can.

**VB_ChickenPower** · Nov 14th, 2002, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by Pc_Madness
Well... C++, because it can do more advanced stuff than VB can.

But do all applications need the mulithreading/pointers that C++ provides?

**Pc_Madness** · Nov 14th, 2002, 07:05 PM

Well... now your changing the original question. If you want something done quickly, and really don't care how well it runs, then use VB, say for example, if its a just for use inside a corporation.

But if its for the outside world, then I think giving the best product available is what matters, and this could be achieved using a lower level language. Eg C, C++

**VB_ChickenPower** · Nov 14th, 2002, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by Pc_Madness
Well... now your changing the original question. If you want something done quickly, and really don't care how well it runs, then use VB, say for example, if its a just for use inside a corporation.

But if its for the outside world, then I think giving the best product available is what matters, and this could be achieved using a lower level language. Eg C, C++

Exactly

**JordanChris** · Nov 15th, 2002, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by nemaroller
Don't get too rustled... VB is a new language to these old dogs of programming... its only been around 10 years... the last time they probably even saw VB was in its early stages.. vb1 or 2...

You see, they grew up punching holes in cards to program machines... and then they moved to command line interfaces (wow, bet that saved a lot of pain)...

Some of us DID start off by punching holes in cards! Using finger punches first (A = top row + 2nd row together), and then a GREAT advance - you could type on a keyboard and it would punch the required holes to form the letter.
Then we went on to writing all programs out on paper and giving them to a data entry clerk who entered them, and returned a printout saying SOC7 - i.e. it has crashed.
Then we had teletypes - where you could enter the program and see the results.
And, yes, I did learn VBV2 first - then skiped a few years doing other things and re-learnt VBV6.

**nabeels786** · Nov 15th, 2002, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by VB_ChickenPower
But do all applications need the mulithreading/pointers that C++ provides?

i used vb for about 2 years, then i picked up c++. i like c++ so much better, it flows much nicer, and i like having that much control

**MerrionComputin** · Nov 15th, 2002, 07:02 AM

I wonder how many buffer overrun related hacking problems there would be if C/C++ borrowed a feature from VB - built in boundary checking.

**Binish** · Nov 15th, 2002, 07:13 AM

I have used both C++ and VB for real life applications, I like the elegant style of C++. you get ideas flowing while coding in C++ but not so in VB

**crosbj** · Nov 15th, 2002, 09:24 AM

This thread is kinda like the conversation Eddie Murphy (I think) and Richard Pryor had regarding Bill Cosby saying Eddie's comedy was dirty and he shouldn't have to be dirty to make a living as a comedian. In response to Bill's remarks, Pryor asked Eddie...
Do you make people laugh? Eddie: Yes Pryor: Do you make money? Eddie: Yes Pryor: Then tell Bill Cosby I said to suck my D***. Hey if people pay you to build apps in vb and you enjoy it then F*** them.

**Cander** · Nov 15th, 2002, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by crosbj
This thread is kinda like the conversation Eddie Murphy (I think) and Richard Pryor had regarding Bill Cosby saying Eddie's comedy was dirty and he shouldn't have to be dirty to make a living as a comedian. In response to Bill's remarks, Pryor asked Eddie...
Do you make people laugh? Eddie: Yes Pryor: Do you make money? Eddie: Yes Pryor: Then tell Bill Cosby I said to suck my D***. Hey if people pay you to build apps in vb and you enjoy it then F*** them.

Jello Puddin Eatin Mother ******!

**TupacShakur** · Nov 15th, 2002, 11:12 AM

Well.. Let me say that i saw some really ****ed Up posts on this thread (from C++ fanatics

). But to make it clear, comig from experienced programmers who at least used VB, their criticism is KIND OF acceptable.
If u go to the beginning of the post, my FIGHT is against those muthasuckers, dick-licking bastards who know **** about VB, and consider themselves as ****ING expert programmers, and they even don't know why and where is C++ better than VB... To hell with them sucking IGNORANTS.. To hell with my *NIX teacher...
And by the way, to hell with JAY-Z... Ha ha ha ha

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